coiler666
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A local gun shop had an old Colt with yellow grips; he called em Derlin?Prolly not the same, but sure looked similar.
Help with old Yellow Grips Please
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Coiler666,
I would imagine that the term "Derlin" that the shop was using was a corruption of the word "Delrin".
Delrin is the trademarked name of one of DuPont's products and is another of the cyanoacrylates. All of them are similar but have specifically different characteristics to fit them to different uses (i.e. more resistant to wear, or easier to work, or more resistant to solvents, etc.)
Bob
I would imagine that the term "Derlin" that the shop was using was a corruption of the word "Delrin".
Delrin is the trademarked name of one of DuPont's products and is another of the cyanoacrylates. All of them are similar but have specifically different characteristics to fit them to different uses (i.e. more resistant to wear, or easier to work, or more resistant to solvents, etc.)
Bob
gripsguy
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Surelac? grips
Lee,
They look like Surelac grips. I'm not positive on the spelling from my notes, but have a pair with manufacturer label on the inside of one panel. They were from South Texas, perhaps Corpus Christie?
I don't know about the doctor part....
I don't know what the material is, but most pairs I've seen had a chip somewhere, making them seem less durable than the Bakelite grips made by Pointer, Murad, and Southwest Cutlery.
They are very popular among Colt buffs, not so much with others. I consider an unbroken pair to be a nice find, no matter what they fit.
There are more recent copies made by Tyler TruFit (about the 1980s) of a more durable yellow plastic, and similar aftermarket creations of several varieties. Not everything yellow plastic will be Surelac.
Hope this helps.
Jim King
Lee,
They look like Surelac grips. I'm not positive on the spelling from my notes, but have a pair with manufacturer label on the inside of one panel. They were from South Texas, perhaps Corpus Christie?
I don't know about the doctor part....
I don't know what the material is, but most pairs I've seen had a chip somewhere, making them seem less durable than the Bakelite grips made by Pointer, Murad, and Southwest Cutlery.
They are very popular among Colt buffs, not so much with others. I consider an unbroken pair to be a nice find, no matter what they fit.
There are more recent copies made by Tyler TruFit (about the 1980s) of a more durable yellow plastic, and similar aftermarket creations of several varieties. Not everything yellow plastic will be Surelac.
Hope this helps.
Jim King
gripsguy
Member
Oops, not Surelac?
Should have looked closer, as these are not like the Surelac grips I have on the inside. I don't know who made them. I don't think they are Tyler, either. I've seen stag and ivory grips made like this, too. So who's the doctor who made them?
Jim King
Should have looked closer, as these are not like the Surelac grips I have on the inside. I don't know who made them. I don't think they are Tyler, either. I've seen stag and ivory grips made like this, too. So who's the doctor who made them?
Jim King
Jim,
I don't know who the doctor was but I would bet he was a dentist. All of them were trained in processing acrylics in the making of full dentures. The young practitioners now don't do it but any of the old timers had the skills and the equipment to do it.
Bob
I don't know who the doctor was but I would bet he was a dentist. All of them were trained in processing acrylics in the making of full dentures. The young practitioners now don't do it but any of the old timers had the skills and the equipment to do it.
Bob
I had a post up a few months ago about a 1905,4th change, .32-20 with those stocks on it. The shop owners thought they were Ivory. Now that they know they are not the price has changed, but not low enough. I also saw one with original stocks at another shop with a price of $1045.00. I didn't make an offer.
coiler666
Member
Thanx Bob, im sure your correct. Looked like a very good material for grips. I love all the information you all have collected over the years...thanx again sir
deduke1907
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these were made by ajak grips with out the picture or name refer to as jw yellow. also try VINTAGE GUN GRIPS
these were made by ajak grips with out the picture or name refer to as jw yellow. also try VINTAGE GUN GRIPS
I recently picked these up. They were incorrectly advertised as for S&W (they're for a Ruger Bearcat) but I figured I'd add them to the collection anyway. They appear to be the same material as the others in this thread.
I've also got these, for a smaller revolver. They're a bit darker, more a honey color, but appear to be the same or similar material.
I've also got these, for a smaller revolver. They're a bit darker, more a honey color, but appear to be the same or similar material.
Hey guys, I just stumbled across a Colt SAA 1st gen from around 1910. It was wearing these catalin grips with the finger grooves exactly like one of the Duke's movie guns. They are in perfect condition and are a pleasing yellow/orange color. Any idea as to the value for just the grips?
The gun is a .45, 4 3/4" barrel with oak leaf and acorn engraving (simply done, I would say journeyman level, with extensive coverage) and no caliber markings or Colt roll marks on barrel. The barrel is mostly engraved too. Whenever the engraving and reblue was done, it was a long time ago. Could this gun have been shipped in the white (to outside firm) with no markings except serial number and patent dates? Any insights greatly appreciated. No photos yet.
The gun is a .45, 4 3/4" barrel with oak leaf and acorn engraving (simply done, I would say journeyman level, with extensive coverage) and no caliber markings or Colt roll marks on barrel. The barrel is mostly engraved too. Whenever the engraving and reblue was done, it was a long time ago. Could this gun have been shipped in the white (to outside firm) with no markings except serial number and patent dates? Any insights greatly appreciated. No photos yet.
I remember mentioning grips like this to you, when we were in Tulsa, that I had seen on a 1905 at a pawn shop.
skeezix
SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
Value?
I'm anxously awaiting some answers. I saw a set on Ebay last week for a K-frame and there was a hole in the butt of one panel (for a lanyard ring, I guess). Opening bid was $45, and no bids at that time.
Reckon they're worth the price of Cokes?
I'm anxously awaiting some answers. I saw a set on Ebay last week for a K-frame and there was a hole in the butt of one panel (for a lanyard ring, I guess). Opening bid was $45, and no bids at that time.
Reckon they're worth the price of Cokes?
Decided to buy this .32-20 HE Model of 1905,4th change. Gun shop thought the grips were Ivory. I had been looking at this for while.
This set of grips has finger grooves plus a thumb rest and half moon metal washers.
This set of grips has finger grooves plus a thumb rest and half moon metal washers.
Mule88
Member
I bought a 2nd model hand ejector with those same grips on it, I never seen the grips before and was also wondering about them.
More Catalin
A couple recent finds:
The larger set, for a High Standard .22 pistol, I found over the winter. They're unmarked as to maker but have finger grooves on one panel and a lot of interesting swirling in the material the picture doesn't quite capture. The smaller set I found just the other day and haven't figured out what they fit yet (maybe a Colt 1902?) but these have an old sticker on the back and, upon researching this, was pleased to find out they were made by Maurice D. Scharlack (most resources online misspell his last name) of Corpus Christi, Texas who supposedly was the developer of Catalin material and made the grips for John Wayne's famous movie pistols.
From the Internet Movie Firearms Database: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/True_Grit_(1969)
Further online research tells me Scharlack, a lawyer, was a rather infamous numismatist, or collector (some say a hoarder) of coins among other items.
A couple recent finds:
The larger set, for a High Standard .22 pistol, I found over the winter. They're unmarked as to maker but have finger grooves on one panel and a lot of interesting swirling in the material the picture doesn't quite capture. The smaller set I found just the other day and haven't figured out what they fit yet (maybe a Colt 1902?) but these have an old sticker on the back and, upon researching this, was pleased to find out they were made by Maurice D. Scharlack (most resources online misspell his last name) of Corpus Christi, Texas who supposedly was the developer of Catalin material and made the grips for John Wayne's famous movie pistols.
From the Internet Movie Firearms Database: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/True_Grit_(1969)
Further online research tells me Scharlack, a lawyer, was a rather infamous numismatist, or collector (some say a hoarder) of coins among other items.
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Cal30m1
Member
I am a brand new user here, and not computer smart. However, in the late 60's there were riots and my father purchased a Smith model 60 for my mother. Long before there were "Lady Smiths", he tried to make it more appealing to my mother by having the shop put on "Ivorine" grips. Long story short, the pistol has been sitting in the box with both the original and Ivorine grips, un fired since 1969. But the white grips are definitely S&W.
shotgun693
Member
On older Colts they were called 'Buttermilk' grips. They get brittle with age. I have a set that came off of an older S&W. One side was broken and repaired the other has a small crack. I always thought they'd look good on an older retired gun. If I remember I'll take a photo and post it.
ParadiseRoad
Member
I have two pair, both with finger grooves on the left side. I always figured them for Bakelite. I love them.
Regards,
Bruce
Regards,
Bruce
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