Here's the scoop getting you LTC in Texas.

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Legal or not legal?

So, my follow up in re knives.

This knife at this very moment sits in a sheath on my belt - I dressed for Halloween today as the Monster Hunter so I wore a movie monster Hawaiian shirt, blaze orange Beretta vest, and blaze orange Orvis fedora. The knife's sheath shows some under the vest - I didn't think the vest would conceal my EDC so I carried a pocket gun (642) that used to be my EDC.

Anyway, the knife is a custom made Damascus .... what? Is it a skinner or hunter*? Is it a fighting knife? I actually use it at steak restaurants. That's really what I bought it for.

The blade is 3" long so, technically, it's a legal knife.

What do you think it is if I use it defensively and get arrested? Dagger? Dirk? Stiletto? Poniard? Bowie? What will law enforcement say? Just because it's not 6 inches long and has an odd shape instead or a long slim blade do you think the arrest report will say Bowie knife? I do, actually, because that's its best description in a police report, namely, a 3" Bowie - POOF - it's illegal..

Legal is in the eyes of the beholder........
 

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I agree with ISCS Yoda. Instructional posts like this should be written by instructors, not first-time students working from a sketchy set of notes. I'm not an instructor, just a guy who has held an LTC (formerly CHL) for more than 15 years, but I spotted several errors in the OP.

Even better, a post like that should be written by a lawyer who holds an LTC and practices in the area of personal defense law. As a matter of fact, it's been done:

Books - Texas & U.S. Law Shield Bearaphernalia

Texas Law Shield has five different books available for five states, including TX, OK, CO, FL, and PA. If you live in one of those five states, I highly recommend you make the $10 investment in knowing how to stay legal and out of jail.

No, I don't work for TLS, nor do I get a kickback for pushing their books. I'm just a guy who has been a client of theirs for more than a decade. I've never needed their services, but they're just a phone call away if I do.
 
Here is a "tip" for anyone who is helping a Female get her CHL.
PLEASE do not let her qualify with one of those TINY .380 caliber semi-automatics available out there!!!
Here is why: She will have to shoot a box of 50 rounds, and will end up with cuts on her shooting hand where the slide recoils back with each shot.
That is 50 times!!
That "slide cut is nasty and bleeds aND HURTS, AND TAKES A LONG TIME TO HEAL.
Every woman who takes the course ends up with these cuts.
So,,,, use a much bigger pistol to qualify with.
The PPK pistol size is A-OK, and does NOT cause cuts.
It's the Kel-Tec and Ruger 380 size that does!!!
 
XD40inTX said:
I agree with ISCS Yoda. Instructional posts like this should be written by instructors, not first-time students working from a sketchy set of notes. I'm not an instructor, just a guy who has held an LTC (formerly CHL) for more than 15 years, but I spotted several errors in the OP.

Even better, a post like that should be written by a lawyer who holds an LTC and practices in the area of personal defense law. As a matter of fact, it's been done:

Books - Texas & U.S. Law Shield Bearaphernalia

Texas Law Shield has five different books available for five states, including TX, OK, CO, FL, and PA. If you live in one of those five states, I highly recommend you make the $10 investment in knowing how to stay legal and out of jail.

No, I don't work for TLS, nor do I get a kickback for pushing their books. I'm just a guy who has been a client of theirs for more than a decade. I've never needed their services, but they're just a phone call away if I do.
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I was the only one who took notes, that said-please dont muddy up an informative post-that I posted here for a reason. That reason--EDUCATION.

If the info helps one person here? ive done my job.
 
the ringo kid said:
OPEN CARRY:

Gun HAS to be in a belt or shoulder holster. It CANNOT be carried in an ankle holster-fanny packs were not mentioned and I didnt think to ask. The holster has to be secure.
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I've read this twice and have to ask...how does one open carry with a fanny pack?!?
 
You violated the law if you intentionally enter a place with your gun if you have seen any notice posted or were verbally told about it-and still enter
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My understanding of the law is that, at least for commercial establishments, the notification has to be written and has to comply exactly with the provisions of 30:06 and 30:07. A verbal notification or non compliant sign is invalid.

A private residence is a different story. At least I would think so.
 
Never the less, discretion is the better part of valor. If one wishes to avoid problems, if that one is asked (inside any location) to leave if armed, it would seem to be a very wise thing to comply. The law is different in different places concerning this fact, but it seems to me that just because one can do something, even legally, it does not mean that it is wise to do that thing. It's my opinion that one should be as wise and smart as possible. If I am told I am not welcome in a place with my firearm, posted or not, I do not intend to stay there, with or without my weapon. I would expect no less if the business or the home was mine and I was the one asking someone to leave for any reason.
 
Its interesting the difference's in the different states teaching of their Conceal Carry permit and laws .. and how they go about it ..

In my state of Illinois where I took the permit course at a junior college the whole course was laid out in a booklet several hundred pages long that covered the complete law and pistol gun safety.. Each person in the class received a copy of this booklet .. there were 16 people in the class.. the class is held once ever 16 weeks if there are enough signing up with 10 being the minimum number for the class to be held ..

8 hours was devoted to gun safety and the workings of both an auto and wheel gun .. including field striping and cleaning of the weapon .. then 8 hours on the Conceal Carry Law its self .. also include was going over several possible scenario's that someone might encounter while carrying ..

You received a copy of the law which was gone over page by page .. time for questions was taken anytime someone had a question about what was being covered and explained until all understood or at least said they. The complete course in Illinois takes a full 16 hours over 2 days .. and instructor will not let the class out early .. the day on Illinois Conceal Carry Law actually ran over about 30 minutes .. the course includes shooting at 5/7/10 yards .. 10 rounds at each distance for a total of 30 rounds .. 21 rounds must score on target .. or 70% ..

The booklet has come in hand several times for looking up different points of the law when a question has come up ..
 
alexrex20 said:
And yet Chicago is the crime capital of the USA lol

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Conceal Carry training in Illinois has nothing to do with the gang crime in any of the city's in Illinois just as it doesn't have anything to do with it in other states either .... Though it may have actually reduced it some as the Perp's now don't know who is armed now legally where before no one was legal so very few were armed ..
 
30.06 Sign means No Concealed Carry Allowed

30.07 Sign means No Open Carry Allowed. Effective January 1, 2016 Both signs must be posted

I'm confused. So if the 30:06 sign is posted does that rule out both means of carry? Just asking
 
Maddog 521 said:
So if the 30:06 sign is posted does that rule out both means of carry? Just asking
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You're overthinking it. Each one only rules out one form of carry. It takes both to rule out carrying a firearm:

30:06-only no CC, OC allowed
30:07-only no OC, CC allowed
30:06 & 30:07 neither OC or CC allowed

IANAL and IANAE...
 
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And of course a red "51%" sign rules out any form of carry and no other signs are needed.

buzzkillbob said:
You're overthinking it. Each one only rules out one form of carry. It takes both to rule out carrying a firearm:

30:06-only no CC, OC allowed
30:07-only no OC, CC allowed
30:06 & 30:07 neither OC or CC allowed

IANAL and IANAE...
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Thanks, Ringo!! I haven't been to Texas for awhile, but I believe that my WV Concealed Carry is good there. And I have LEOSA as well, but like to keep my WV and FL carry licenses up as well, in case I run over my certification period with my LEOSA.

In all of my years of carrying, I have never been asked about my gun, or a license, or anything. One of the reasons that I like concealed carry, is that if truly concealed, no one knows you have it, and don't ask about it.

Thanks for all the time you put into this post, and the helpful information.

Finally, congrats on passing the course.

Best Regards, Les
 
buzzkillbob said:
You're overthinking it. Each one only rules out one form of carry. It takes both to rule out carrying a firearm:

30:06-only no CC, OC allowed
30:07-only no OC, CC allowed
30:06 & 30:07 neither OC or CC allowed

IANAL and IANAE...
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Yes sir, that's the way I read it too.
 
buzzkillbob said:
I've read this twice and have to ask...how does one open carry with a fanny pack?!?
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When I decide to carry? it sure AINT going to be in a "fanny pack" or "men's purse."

Edited to erase a mistake.
 
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