Hertz dumps EVs

[WardenRoss]

Hertz charges the customer a $35 fee if they return it with a low charge.

My neighbor had a rental car during a bodyshop, insurance repair. Only car available was a EUV and she had no way to recharge it before the return.

Whatever!



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[Spajohn]

I think I'll stay with proven organic technology...

 

[M E Morrison]

Well, not all of them, 20K which is about one-third if their EV fleet. Reason is high maintenance and collision repair cost and also they are not popular with renters and are money losers for Hertz . They have just put 700 of their EVs up for sale if you are interested.

expensive lesson???

 

[Heinz]

I bet I can read through here and make a good guess on who owns a Tesla

 

[meaneyedcatz]

I had a customer state he only charged up his vehicle once.
Didn’t cost much since it wasn’t a full charge.
About $85.00
Must be nice to have throw away money.

 

[Imissedagain]

Read that the fastest 0-60mph C8 Vette is 2.5 seconds
and Tesla's best is 1.99 seconds.

Is that a Socket Rocket?

That's the only reason the kids in the family/friends
bought them.

These days you can go Old School Fast with sails.
I built a small foldable sail for inline skates, long ago.
Scary fast.
Hockey gear required.

Made hand held sails as kids for the ice on Willow Lake NYC.
'59-'64.
Chemicals in the water to kill plants for the World's Fair,
lake would not freeze.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcO_ii1X_v4[/ame]

 

[Alk8944]

They were probably having to tow too many of the EVs after the batteries died and the renters walked away, called Hertz, and told them where to find the vehicle!

 

[DWalt]

They were probably having to tow too many of the EVs after the batteries died and the renters walked away, called Hertz, and told them where to find the vehicle!

That, or something like it, could be possible. I have experienced two rental car incidents where I had to call the rental car company to bring me a different car because the one I rented had problems. One wouldn't start because the battery went out and would not start and another when the transmission went out. In both cases, the rental car company gave me a difficult time and tried to blame me. Neither was an EV. Interesting question. If an EV renter runs out of battery charge nowhere near a recharge station, what does the rental car company do? Much more likely to happen with a rental EV than with a rental ICE.

 

[neorebel]

A quick point of interest: Harris Ranch (I-5) in California has the largest EV charging station in the US. Guess what? It's powered by on-site Diesel Generators!

Not to change the subject, but I used to fly from San Jose to The Harris Ranch for a steak dinner and for fun every once in a while.

Great place to eat. Kind of a crazy landing strip as you normally had to fly over the one end overpass and land. Great for night cross county and a newbee.

I think it's ridiculous to own an electric car. The last estimate I read was on a good day, we put out around 13% of our electricity from solar and wind. IF it snows, or there's no wind you're out of luck and it plummets to single digits.

The other 87% or so to make 100% comes from coal, nuclear and gas, so what have you really done if you own one? virtually nothing.

You've wasted hours on charges that are fueled by fossil fuel, coal and nuclear power. Now a hybrid...that's a different animal all together. I have one car that's hybrid. It gets three times the mileage as my truck and when I do fill it up it makes me smile. I cost me $10.00 the other day.

I think the price of hybrids are going to jump up soon. According to what I've read, they have jumped up 20 to 30 percent already.

Electric vehicles make no sense to me at all.

But that's just my opinion and I don't mean to argue with you if you feel differently.

 

[Doug M.]

Among other things, the build quality on Tesla vehicles is well below abysmal.

 

[Imissedagain]

Hertz charges the customer a $35 fee if they return it with a low charge.

Did they provide a bill with how many gallons of
kilowatts were missing?

 

[DWalt]

Among other things, the build quality on Tesla vehicles is well below abysmal.

Personally, I neither know nor care anything about the Tesla's build quality. However I have read several articles claiming that Tesla's build quality has improved substantially over the last few years.

 

[quikdraw67]

There is a 0.0 chance of me ever owning an EV.

After seeing FD training videos they are a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[Capt Steve]

Another EV disaster...

Take a look at how much of the country has been and will continue to experience temps near and even well below zero. Folks with EV's are getting a rude surprise when they discover their EV's will not take a charge in these conditions.

Charging lots are jammed with dead EV's with more just abandoned wherever they happen to be when the juice runs out. This is exacerbated by the significantly reduced performance of charged EV's when the temps start to drop to zero or below.

At least the folks with hybrids can fire up their ICE's and get home {though they are still looking at huge bills when their batteries fail}. I'm guessing the Tesla sales staff doesn't mention this problem when they sell you one between April and October...

 

[kozmic]

Well, seems like Tesla has failed the cold weather charging test as parking lots full of them in Chicago sit idle at Tesla charging stations with the inability to take a charge in the cold.
Give me a good ol' internal combustion engine. Preferably with 8 cylinders and a rumble that can be heard from a distance.

 

[DWalt]

The internet presently has many stories about EV battery cold weather experiences. The answer is to become an EV owner in Hawaii. No concerns about mileage or cold weather effects on batteries. I saw one article suggesting that you should always charge your EV inside a heated garage during cold weather. So you can burn down your house.

 

[NYlakesider]

Well, seems like Tesla has failed the cold weather charging test as parking lots full of them in Chicago sit idle at Tesla charging stations with the inability to take a charge in the cold.
Give me a good ol' internal combustion engine. Preferably with 8 cylinders and a rumble that can be heard from a distance.

From what I see they have flunked a bunch of tests. A good bet we have not heard the worse yet.-

 

[kozmic]

From what I see they have flunked a bunch of tests. A good bet we have not heard the worse yet.-

So far it seems like you can choose between too cold to charge and hot enough to blow up! Tough choice!!!

 

[Onomea]

It’s the WSJ not WAPO. No misinformation in my link.

For you misinformation junkies, here's the NYT's take:

Hertz Sells 20,000 Electric Cars After Being Burned by Tesla’s Price Cuts - The New York Times

Above includes this tidbit:

...Jeremy Robb, senior director of economic and industry insights at Cox Automotive....Mr. Robb noted that electric vehicle sales in the United States totaled nearly 1.2 million last year, and were up 40 percent in the last three months of 2023 from the same period in 2022. “There is still a market for E.V.s,” he said...

 

[DWalt]

I read something about the Hertz decision being influenced by "a large increase in EV depreciation expense." I did not understand what was meant at the time, but now It is clear. It is because they had to take a larger write-off on the sales of used rental EVs at prices considerably lower than expected.