How Can You Pick A Prison

[windjammer]

It's been on the news, in the last few days, Madoff has hired a consultant to help him get in the best prison to spend his time.

I don't understand how someone has the ability to do this, even though they have a lot of money.

I don't think O.J. has been assigned a place yet. He may be still appealing...I dunno.

 

[red14]

""I don't understand how someone has the ability to do this""

you answered your own question.


""they have a lot of money.""

 

[cshoff]

""I don't understand how someone has the ability to do this""

you answered your own question.


""they have a lot of money.""

Except in this case, I believe Madoff is broke. Probably some well-to-do relative paying for it, I suppose.

 

[n4zov]

Yeah, some of those relatives woke up one morning and found a big sack of money under their beds, and said, "The Uncle Madoff must have left this for me." Several of his relatives need to be sharing his cell.

 

[ingmansinc]

Picking a prison kind of reminds me of an old joke about a guy who died and went to Hell. The Devil showed him several rooms that he could pick for eternity. One was flames and people screaming with pain, another had it's occupants breaking rocks with sledge hammers and they were all in pain, and then he opened a door to a room full of people sitting in **** waist deep and drinking coffee. Guess what, he immediately picked this room and got his coffee and jumped in as the Devil screamed coffee breaks over, everybody down. Is there really such a thing as a good prison?

 

[Landpimp]

I had a choice of jails, I paid an extra $35 a day to go the better one

 

[JayCeeNC]

It's been on the news, in the last few days, Madoff has hired a consultant to help him get in the best prison to spend his time.

I hope that consultant didn't take a check.

 

[BarbC]

The best federal prisons (Club Fed) are supposed to be:

Elgin, Fort Walton Beach, Florida
Nellis, North Las Vegas, Nevada
Morgantown, Morgantown, West Virgina
Otisville, Otisville, New York
Allenwood, Montgomery, Pennsylvania

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Actually there is quite a cottage industry of ex federal cons giving advice to "newbies" read white collar regarding what to expect, what to bring, what not to bring etc to prison. For instance, when you report, do NOT bring anything with you. Once you are where you are going to do the time-have it sent to you since apparantly when they move you you can'tr bring your stuff. Regarding picking a prison, the feds have guidelines regarding where one is sent-"consultants" (read ex cons) know these guidelines and work with the client to get the best he can-WITHIN the guidelines. Rather than paying a lawyer his hourly fee to do the reasearch-you just pay one of these guys much less for the same info. Nothing wrong with that. Useful service and capitalism at its' best. The Feds take the view that imprisonment itself is the punishment and they for the most part do not go out of their way to screw with someone just to screw with them. The plug into thesystem the facts and whatever they plug in, and the little box spits out a list of the placed he should go. The only choice he may get is one close to home. In any event, due to the length of the sentence he isn't going to a country club-he isnot going to the Super Max but he ain't gonna be playing golf or walking on the beach. I expect that because of his age, that sooner or later he is going to wind up in one of the hospitals.
Don't get me whong, I am not being an apologist for this guy, but he is doing what anyone else in the federal system has a right to do-I see no special favors here.

 

[tom turner]

I wish they'd sentence him HERE, to life without parole as a groundskeeper/bagboy:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1047834.html

It is the Palm Beach County Country Club in Florida founded by the ultra-rich Jewish community in the 1960s. The Initiation Fee is $ 300,000 and ol' Bernie was a TRUSTED member there . . . swindling his friends out of millions of dollars each.

Wouldn't it be great to see how Bernie would fare as the caddy for those folks he screwed!!!

T.

 

[paladin42]

OK, you've got my interest up - I'll bite. What's the story?

I had a choice of jails, I paid an extra $35 a day to go the better one

 

[gunsmith11]

I dought he really gives a crap, at his age he know its only a matter of time, and at his age he will not get harrassed in prison, he knows he had a hell of a ride while it lasted, he is probably feeling very comfortable

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Following up on my earlier post...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6633809.ece

Apparently the Judge knew right well what he was doing when he sentenced old Bern.....

 

[Bob R]

I always thought the FCI at Lompoc looked fairly nice. We regularly flew over it on approach into Vandenberg AFB. It has picnic tables, basketball courts and usually convicts sitting at the tables watching us fly by.

Probably wishing they were with us instead of inside the fence!

bob

 

[Senior Citizen]

I wish they'd sentence him HERE, to life without parole as a groundskeeper/bagboy:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1047834.html

It is the Palm Beach County Country Club in Florida founded by the ultra-rich Jewish community in the 1960s. The Initiation Fee is $ 300,000 and ol' Bernie was a TRUSTED member there . . . swindling his friends out of millions of dollars each.

Wouldn't it be great to see how Bernie would fare as the caddy for those folks he screwed!!!

T.

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I suspect he'd probably take a few pitching wedges to the shin from some of the old "blue haired ladies"!

SC

 

[therevjay]

I went to a two week NBC school at Camp Parks Ca. Right next door to Livermore FCI. It looked fairly sweet to me.

At least a hell of a lot better then the WW2 barracks we lived in.

 

[Landpimp]

18 at the time.....call it a learning experence(which is was)

also helpfull mom use to date the head of the jail 30 years prior

OK, you've got my interest up - I'll bite. What's the story?

 

[MaximumLawman]

I wish they'd sentence him HERE, to life without parole as a groundskeeper/bagboy:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1047834.html

It is the Palm Beach County Country Club in Florida founded by the ultra-rich Jewish community in the 1960s. The Initiation Fee is $ 300,000 and ol' Bernie was a TRUSTED member there . . . swindling his friends out of millions of dollars each.

Wouldn't it be great to see how Bernie would fare as the caddy for those folks he screwed!!!

T.

Ironic that the same thing that helped them make all that money was resonsible for them losing a bunch of it: Not enough fear and too much GREED.

 

[GatorFarmer]

The best federal prisons (Club Fed) are supposed to be:

Elgin, Fort Walton Beach, Florida
Nellis, North Las Vegas, Nevada
Morgantown, Morgantown, West Virgina
Otisville, Otisville, New York
Allenwood, Montgomery, Pennsylvania

I thought that the entire area around Nellis had some problems with contamination owing to the nuclear testing that took place in the area.

 

[Capt Steve]

Ironic that the same thing that helped them make all that money was resonsible for them losing a bunch of it: Not enough fear and too much GREED.

Though I don't recall who, but someone once pointed out "You cannot cheat an honest man."

I believe this holds true for most of Madoff's victims. Promises of pie in the sky returns that sounded too good to be true, were just that. Folks got greedy and foolish soon followed. Investing is gambling pure and simple. If you cannot afford to lose then don't play. For the record, what little we have to invest is in an FDIC insured Money Market account. It doesn't pay much but it won't go away. (o;