How Many Have DUMPED their J-Frame for a NEW MINI Semi-Auto?
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samuelrp
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When someone can make a sub compact that doesn't have a recall, I will consider it. Too bad the new Glock is a mouse caliber.
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i have a few glock 27s and a kahr cm9 but i just about always carry an sp101. i shoot the autos better and know i am crazy but it's a safety & reliability thing for me. i just about always carry in the appendix position and don't feel safe with a striker fired gun pointed at my junk. i guess i should switch to a sig.
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Model 37 to Kahr P9
I was given a Kahr P9 as a reward for service to a private shooting organization. Since then, my S&W M37 rests in the safe although I do use it on occasion. Deciding factors for me were the Kahr's flatness, three extra rounds of capacity, better accuracy, less recoil and ease of reloading.
I was given a Kahr P9 as a reward for service to a private shooting organization. Since then, my S&W M37 rests in the safe although I do use it on occasion. Deciding factors for me were the Kahr's flatness, three extra rounds of capacity, better accuracy, less recoil and ease of reloading.
I don't see choosing different types of handguns for different times, circumstances and reasons as "dumping" other choices.
I started carrying a J-frame back when it was lighter and easier to conceal off-duty, as well as for court, meetings and classes, when I was a young cop and didn't want to carry my issued 6-shot K or L-frame revolver, or my Commander.
I gravitated to the increasingly smaller & lighter semiautos as they started to become increasingly popular, but over the years I always kept coming back to adding to my collection of J-frames.
As an instructor I've developed a bit of a long list of many handguns with which I've repeatedly qualified, covering all sizes of pistols and revolvers.
Sometimes I'll choose one of my compact/subcompact 9's, .40's or .45's as a retirement weapon ... but for a significant amount of the time it'll often be one of my assorted J's (7 of them in the safe at the moment), or even a little Ruger LCP I acquired not quite a couple years ago.
I haven't "dumped" anything for anything, and I work to maintain my skillset with all the guns I still choose to occasionally carry as retirement weapons (as well as teaching/training weapons as an instructor).
I started carrying a J-frame back when it was lighter and easier to conceal off-duty, as well as for court, meetings and classes, when I was a young cop and didn't want to carry my issued 6-shot K or L-frame revolver, or my Commander.
I gravitated to the increasingly smaller & lighter semiautos as they started to become increasingly popular, but over the years I always kept coming back to adding to my collection of J-frames.
As an instructor I've developed a bit of a long list of many handguns with which I've repeatedly qualified, covering all sizes of pistols and revolvers.
Sometimes I'll choose one of my compact/subcompact 9's, .40's or .45's as a retirement weapon ... but for a significant amount of the time it'll often be one of my assorted J's (7 of them in the safe at the moment), or even a little Ruger LCP I acquired not quite a couple years ago.
I haven't "dumped" anything for anything, and I work to maintain my skillset with all the guns I still choose to occasionally carry as retirement weapons (as well as teaching/training weapons as an instructor).
Carry a Glock 26 if I feel the need for more firepower which isn't often. Otherwise I carry an SP 101. Want to get a j frame for pocket carry. I am leaning to a 638 0r a 642, any suggestions? Also I can't find anyone who can get a j frame. I am told that all j frames are currently allocated. Anyone know why?
Protected One
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J-frames are readily available here in Michigan.
So you consider a Glock 26 as "more firepower" than a Ruger Sp-101? Wow. More rounds - yes...but more firepower???? Hmmm
M1fuzz
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They do make a 10 shot 357. It is called a Glock 33.
Protected One
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.380 is not categorized as a "mouse gun(caliber). That designation is to .32 and below.
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Not to denigrate the effectiveness of .380, but it is a mouse gun caliber. Mousegun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Keep the J and......Glocks are affordable!
MrTrolleyguy
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For the last 6 weeks I've had a G42 constantly in my pocket. For now it has replaced the J frame as the BUG. A wheelgun is still the primary.
traderdell
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Most older folks have learned through experience, trial, and error that there is nothing more perfect for EDC than the J frame revolver.
There are also quite a few younger (wiser) folks out there who have also come to this inescapable conclusion. JMHO.
What a great looking rig!
I've done the reverse. Have a 642 on the way to replace or at least compliment an LCP.
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Long time gun owner, short time ccw in Wi. Started carrying a j-frame for deep cover during day. Now keep it for occasional need for deep carry in summer. Have slowly adjusted style of dress and hybrid holsters to accommodate Taurus 445 during day, or 45 xds most other times.
When I'm not carrying my .45 it's a J frame. I do miss a 3913 I sold years ago but my J's always work.
I dumped my semi's and went back to J-Frame
I own Glock, Kahr, LCP and a Seacamp (which I love).
But to me.. they just can't match the reliability of my 638.
I own Glock, Kahr, LCP and a Seacamp (which I love).
But to me.. they just can't match the reliability of my 638.
I have written in other threads and Forums, I tried to like Semi-Autos, full size and Compacts. They just aren't for me. I'm not a Cop and probobly will never need the firearms I carry. I can handle the Snubs I carry and shoot and feel better armed than the millions that don't practice or don't carry. I'll keep my J-Frames.
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19yrs ago I started out with a J frame, some how became infected badly with pocket autos... Tried them all..about 15 of them, the Last of them was a pair of Rohrbaugh R9 9mm micro pistols. Sold both Rohrbaughs and picked up two 340 j frames. I'm of the opinion that you need two of anything that you will have to depend on. I don't see myself using anything other than a J frame for my defensive purposes, I really have seen enough malfunctioning from semi autos to not trust one if I was in a arms length battle for my life, I hate the possibility of a jam from a assailant grabbing the slide or a contact shot stopping my defensive use of a handgun. For me, it will always be a J frame or two for my defensive carry from now on.
19yrs ago I started out with a J frame, some how became infected badly with pocket autos... Tried them all..about 15 of them, the Last of them was a pair of Rohrbaugh R9 9mm micro pistols. Sold both Rohrbaughs and picked up two 340 j frames. I'm of the opinion that you need two of anything that you will have to depend on. I don't see myself using anything other than a J frame for my defensive purposes, I really have seen enough malfunctioning from semi autos to not trust one if I was in a arms length battle for my life, I hate the possibility of a jam from a assailant grabbing the slide or a contact shot stopping my defensive use of a handgun. For me, it will always be a J frame or two for my defensive carry from now on.
cmort666
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How do you define "MINI Semi-Auto"?
When all of the "Aloha snackbar!" stuff got out of hand, I switched from a Smith 36 "no-dash" to first a Glock 19, then a Citadel 3 1/2" M1911. I didn't think that five rounds of .38 Special was optimal in such situations, and preferred .45acp to 9x19mm.
Neither the Citadel nor the Glock is exactly "tiny".
When all of the "Aloha snackbar!" stuff got out of hand, I switched from a Smith 36 "no-dash" to first a Glock 19, then a Citadel 3 1/2" M1911. I didn't think that five rounds of .38 Special was optimal in such situations, and preferred .45acp to 9x19mm.
Neither the Citadel nor the Glock is exactly "tiny".
Negative. No dash model 60 every day of the world, though I did buy my wife a Shield 9mm. She loves it and shoots it better than a J (her previous gun was a Charter Arms SS Undercover).
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michael1952
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nope model 60 snubby 357 will always be with me...even if i carry a small semi
Since my initial post in 2014 I've been through all of the tiny .380 pistols and found them all to be problematic in one way or another while my J has never had a problem. Weight has been a big concern as I got older and developed hip and back problems so a 340PD is my current EDC. I do have an LCP but don't carry it much and will likely sell it. I had to use my issued thirty-eight more than once during my 30 year LEO career so that's where my comfort level lies.
Coaltminer
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J Frame Dumped
Not many, I assume. Revolver guys are steadfast. Me, I'm
carrying 380 Bodyguard. Don't know, I'm not an auto
guy, like revolvers, but this thing was so tempting! Flat! You don't know it's there, like pocket change. Have carried J's and Colt Cobra, no comparison to the flatties! Accurate and reliable. I still don't believe it, love the thing and a blast to shoot! I
Wish ammo was as cheap as 9's. More fun than
I've had except sex Got a 581 and a Python, new Ruger GP100 in 44 Spl. That and Bodyguard always go to the range.
Not many, I assume. Revolver guys are steadfast. Me, I'm
carrying 380 Bodyguard. Don't know, I'm not an auto
guy, like revolvers, but this thing was so tempting! Flat! You don't know it's there, like pocket change. Have carried J's and Colt Cobra, no comparison to the flatties! Accurate and reliable. I still don't believe it, love the thing and a blast to shoot! I
Wish ammo was as cheap as 9's. More fun than
I've had except sex Got a 581 and a Python, new Ruger GP100 in 44 Spl. That and Bodyguard always go to the range.
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Hey, coaltminer!!!
Always glad to see a fellow West Virginian on here!! Like Old Cop, just above your post, I mostly carry my 340 PD. 11 ounces empty, it sure doesn't weigh down my pocket much. A bear to shoot with full house loads, but with the Speer Gold Dot short barrel 135 gr .357 magnum, a considerable step up from the .380. And I have several .380s as well.
Best Regards, Les
Always glad to see a fellow West Virginian on here!! Like Old Cop, just above your post, I mostly carry my 340 PD. 11 ounces empty, it sure doesn't weigh down my pocket much. A bear to shoot with full house loads, but with the Speer Gold Dot short barrel 135 gr .357 magnum, a considerable step up from the .380. And I have several .380s as well.
Best Regards, Les
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TomkinsSP
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Only thing that's better than a J frame is.....
Two J frames.
Two J frames.
LOL...... I did..... in about 1990 traded in my 3" 65 for a 3913 as my "Every Day Concealed Carry"!!!
Still have a micro 686 in my 3" 60-10 .357; a 337PD, and my Dad's 640.......
The 60-10 is my "kit gun"; the 337PD is my 12 oz cargo shorts pocket gun....... and the 640 is a treasured family heirloom.... as it was my Dad's last new gun; one he asked me to get for him when he saw mine in 1988(?)
Still have a micro 686 in my 3" 60-10 .357; a 337PD, and my Dad's 640.......
The 60-10 is my "kit gun"; the 337PD is my 12 oz cargo shorts pocket gun....... and the 640 is a treasured family heirloom.... as it was my Dad's last new gun; one he asked me to get for him when he saw mine in 1988(?)
zogger
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While I am old(er), I just started carrying a few years ago. My first EDC was a Px4 Storm Compact 9mm. I like it alot and shoot it well. I carried it for 2 years.
However late last year, I converted to a J-Frame (Model 60 3"). While I am not quite shooting it as well as the Px4, I have only 1500 rnds thru it while I had over 6000 rnds thru the Px4.
My reasons for converting were:
-The J frame is more comfortable to carry. Weight and size is less. Plus the shape seems to just fit better as a IWB.
-My hands are weaker than they used to be. Racking the slide is not as easy as it was even just a few years ago. As such, manipulating the revolver is easier.
-I had a revolver for a few years before I got the J frame to carry. During that time I had some issues with semi-autos due to ammo and magazines. I never had those issues with my revolver. So for me, the revolver is more reliable.
The only downside I see with the revolver is capacity. I think for me the trading of capacity (5 rnds vs 11 rnds) for the advantages of a revolver works.
However late last year, I converted to a J-Frame (Model 60 3"). While I am not quite shooting it as well as the Px4, I have only 1500 rnds thru it while I had over 6000 rnds thru the Px4.
My reasons for converting were:
-The J frame is more comfortable to carry. Weight and size is less. Plus the shape seems to just fit better as a IWB.
-My hands are weaker than they used to be. Racking the slide is not as easy as it was even just a few years ago. As such, manipulating the revolver is easier.
-I had a revolver for a few years before I got the J frame to carry. During that time I had some issues with semi-autos due to ammo and magazines. I never had those issues with my revolver. So for me, the revolver is more reliable.
The only downside I see with the revolver is capacity. I think for me the trading of capacity (5 rnds vs 11 rnds) for the advantages of a revolver works.
AZretired
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NOPE! I've owned and carried a J frame in form or another for 40 years, not gonna stop now.
