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90% of the time I don't carry a reload.
How many reload magazines do you carry?
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I'm a 1911 guy when it comes to social carry. I've always got one spare magazine on my belt. If I'm working a security detail, I run at least two more. My truck has a grab bag with a trauma kit and a few more mags. I'd hate to be the guy that ran out of ammo......
I generally don’t carry a spare mag(s) or speed loader unless I am wearing a shoulder rig, they act as counterweights. There are some that carry more EDC gear than I did while working the street. Whatever floats your boat. 
None!
' If you didn’t hit your intended target/targets with the first 5-10 bullets, what makes you think you’re going to hit with the second bunch? Where did your first bunch go?
Second rule of gun fighting 2) hit what you shoot at.
I try to practice regularly
' If you didn’t hit your intended target/targets with the first 5-10 bullets, what makes you think you’re going to hit with the second bunch? Where did your first bunch go?
Second rule of gun fighting 2) hit what you shoot at.
I try to practice regularly
What if you hit, but your hits haven't any discernable effect on the bad guy?
What if there are five of them?
What if you need suppression fire?
What if you have a malfunction?
What if you have to move and shoot?
More > less.
I carry 18 in the gun, 17 in the spare.
At that point, I'm gonna hope that the assailant(s) get attacked from behind by zombies attracted to the noise of the gunfight. What if you have a malfunction and drop your spare magazine while moving and shooting at five assailants who have stationed a sixth at your only avenue of escape . . . ?
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I’m reminded of the off duty cop at the Trolley Square shooting in Utah a dozen years ago. He emptied his Kimber 1911 and was out of the fight in seconds. Apparently did not hit the guy, but that firing stopped the killing because the perp ran and hid. Still, I bet he wished he had a spare so he could have done more.
No one ever complained after a gunfight of having too much ammo. The opposite is not true. When convenience trumps competence, failure is more likely.
ETA: Muss’s post below corrects mine concerning the story. Great linked article.
No one ever complained after a gunfight of having too much ammo. The opposite is not true. When convenience trumps competence, failure is more likely.
ETA: Muss’s post below corrects mine concerning the story. Great linked article.
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That's not what happened. He fired two rounds at the guy, and continued to pursue him, drawing fire until on duty officers killed the guy . . .
Shots Fired: Salt Lake City, Utah 02•12•2007 - Patrol - POLICE Magazine
Shots Fired: Salt Lake City, Utah 02•12•2007 - Patrol - POLICE Magazine
fredj338
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I’m Surprised
I’m seeing things like supression fire, mag dumps, attacker’s that don’t go down. All may be possibly needed, somewhere like the open range, Wild West, Afghanistan, land of the living dead. I have not been in a gunfight. I’ve read of and spoke to Combat Cross awarded NYPD, WWII, Korean and Vietnam vets.
Suppression fire? In combat yes. It never ended well for NYPD.
Most of us are protecting ourselves and loved ones. Who of us has been caught in a crossfire?
Statistics say the showing of a gun stops most criminal activity.
Shooting the first attacker stops the rest of the mob.
Vast majority of shootings end in one shot.
I’m seeing things like supression fire, mag dumps, attacker’s that don’t go down. All may be possibly needed, somewhere like the open range, Wild West, Afghanistan, land of the living dead. I have not been in a gunfight. I’ve read of and spoke to Combat Cross awarded NYPD, WWII, Korean and Vietnam vets.
Suppression fire? In combat yes. It never ended well for NYPD.
Most of us are protecting ourselves and loved ones. Who of us has been caught in a crossfire?
Statistics say the showing of a gun stops most criminal activity.
Shooting the first attacker stops the rest of the mob.
Vast majority of shootings end in one shot.
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Glad you made it out ok. I'd be interested in hearing more about this if you don't mind sharing. Was your reload of 6 in loops/pouch, or a loader? Did you carry a literal box of 50 on you, or in the car? Or was it a box worth in loops?
Speaking of the box of ammo, I want to say it was a book I read about the 1986 Miami shootout that had something about extra boxes of ammo in FBI vehicles (glovebox). Like 80% sure I read it regarding that incident.
A box of ammo does work out well if it is a tradition revolver. It wouldn’t help me too much with my 642, since 9mm that isn’t on a moonclip would not headspace correctly. But I’m definitely big on extra magazines in the vehicle. I used to keep two extra 30 rounders under the seat of my truck for my AR pistol, but got rid of them at the start of the ammo rush. My AR pistol is running an Adams Arms upper, which I had the piston rod bend when I was practicing (bad heat treatment). So, when I got it back, used those two magazines to confirm zero/function. I carry Hornady CD and XM855 (the former is the one that I can’t get resupply of, currently). Whenever I get a minute, I might toss two magazines of XM193 in there (all POI the same).
A box of ammo does work out well if it is a tradition revolver. It wouldn’t help me too much with my 642, since 9mm that isn’t on a moonclip would not headspace correctly. But I’m definitely big on extra magazines in the vehicle. I used to keep two extra 30 rounders under the seat of my truck for my AR pistol, but got rid of them at the start of the ammo rush. My AR pistol is running an Adams Arms upper, which I had the piston rod bend when I was practicing (bad heat treatment). So, when I got it back, used those two magazines to confirm zero/function. I carry Hornady CD and XM855 (the former is the one that I can’t get resupply of, currently). Whenever I get a minute, I might toss two magazines of XM193 in there (all POI the same).
Maybe Jeff was right in another sense. If he needed more than 8, it would be the cause of his non-survival.
Anybody that says "if I can't do it in 6, or 8 . . . ." should do some force on force work. Play airsoft CQB. It'll open your eyes. You wouldn't believe how fast you can run through 8 rounds. And still need more.
Pretty easy to run thru plastic pellets in a gym when your life and property and finances aren’t really on the line. Kinda like Call of Duty . . .
