How much ammo do you bring when traveling?

It depends on where I'm traveling to.
East St. Louis? Nothing, because I'm never going there.
A general road trip to the mountains, desert, coast or family? Just my usual everyday carry load.
Camping in Grizzley bear country? Bear spray, 10 or 15 Brenneke Black Magic slugs in addition to some wildlife control rubber buckshot. And since the 12 gauge is already with me some 00 buckshot. Also, a 10mm pistol with 30 rounds.
 
Google: Thunder Ranch YouTube video “Pistol malfunction clearance”.
A great video everyone carrying a pistol should watch!
I personally don’t have any place on me I can carry another gun the way I dress. I am not saying that’s not a good idea, but for most people they won’t carry an extra gun and ammo when out and about.
I do understand your point of view and appreciate your comments.
Thanks for your input!

To answer the original question.
I carry one spare mag with my pistol.

Clint Smith use to work at Gunsite for Jeff Cooper. Cooper is who trained and tweaked our course of instruction.

A friend just sent me this:


Gunfight Rules

"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading."

In a gunfight, the most important rule is ... HAVE A GUN!

The following are shooting tips from various Concealed Carry Instructors. If you own a gun, you will appreciate these rules... If not, you should get one, learn how to use it, and learn the rules.



RULES



A.) Guns have only two enemies: Rust and Politicians. Rust can be prevented, Politicians cannot.



B.) It's always better to be judged by 12 than carried out by 6.



C.) Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you



D.) Never let someone or something that threatens you get within 7 yards.



E.) Never say "I've got a gun." If you need to use deadly force, the first sound they should hear is the safety clicking off, or the hammer cocking.



F.) The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes ....when only seconds count; the response time of a .357 is 1,400 feet per second.



G.) The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always Win - there is no such thing as a fair fight. Always Win - cheat if necessary. Always Win - 2nd place doesn't count.



H.) Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets ... you may get killed with your own gun, but they'll have to beat you to death with it because it will be empty.



I.) If you're in a gun fight:

(a) If you're not shooting, you should be reloading.

(b) If you're not reloading, you should be moving.

(c) If you're not moving, you're dead.



J.) In a life and death situation, do something ... it may be wrong, but do something!



K.) If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. Nonsense! If you have a gun, what do you have to be paranoid about?


L.) Never fire a warning shot, that is just one wasted bullet, which could be needed within moments.



M.) You can say "stop" or any other word, but a large bore muzzle pointed at someone's head is pretty much a universal language; and, you won't have to press 1 for Spanish/Mexican, or 2 for Chinese, or 3 for Arabic.



N.) Never leave a wounded enemy behind. If you have to shoot, shoot to kill. In court, yours will be the only testimony.



O.) You cannot save the planet, but you may be able to save yourself and your family.



If you believe in the 2nd Amendment, forward this to others you know who also believe.
 
While I'm carrying, both my PC and BUG, PC is a full sized Gov't model the BUG is an Officers sized 1911. Each has a 7 round magazine with one in the chamber. I also carry 5 spare 7 round mags. I always have a box of 50 in the car or luggage if I'm traveling away from home, or, most likely, I'll just load up 10 spare mags and keep them in a magazine carrier.
 
While I'm carrying, both my PC and BUG, PC is a full sized Gov't model the BUG is an Officers sized 1911. Each has a 7 round magazine with one in the chamber. I also carry 5 spare 7 round mags. I always have a box of 50 in the car or luggage if I'm traveling away from home, or, most likely, I'll just load up 10 spare mags and keep them in a magazine carrier.

Not singling out sousana or anyone else here......but after a week following this thread...... at what point do you say to yourself..... "If I think I may need this much ammo for a trip; maybe I should have brought a long gun!!!!! Or stayed home! :)

OP is going to visit his son...... decades ago I established a "stash of stuff" at my Parent's and think I will do the same at the Boys! Maybe 100rds of 9mm and two spare mags for each of my most carried guns 3913,6906 Beretta 92 Compact/Centurion.
 
Same as I carry at home , the gun and two reloads . The exception would be if I am carrying a larger capacity auto in which case it is one extra magazine.
 
While I'm carrying, both my PC and BUG, PC is a full sized Gov't model the BUG is an Officers sized 1911. Each has a 7 round magazine with one in the chamber. I also carry 5 spare 7 round mags. I always have a box of 50 in the car or luggage if I'm traveling away from home, or, most likely, I'll just load up 10 spare mags and keep them in a magazine carrier.


No grenades ? :D
 
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M&P Shield 9mm or 45acp, (one or the other, not both), one spare mag.
 
Where do your travels take you? Wyoming or Chicago? Are you on your own with a rental car or with friends or business partners? Plan on visiting the hood or the mountains? Not sure there is an answer that covers all the possibilities.
 
We were just traveling last week, 2 K frame speed loaders, 1 J frame speed loader, and 1 speed strip.
 
It depends on what I am driving and what my business is.
We ride motorcycles and adventure ride, so it sometimes takes us into rural, largely unpopulated areas, some of which have been know to have drug labs. My carry is an old Ruger P-95 with a couple of extra mags.
Other wise my Glock 43X with an extra mag, is usually enough.
Once I went to look at a car listed on Craigslist, and the circumstances seemed slightly weird, so I took the Ruger P95, and 3 extra mags, on my person, and a AR with 4 or 5 loaded mags in the truck.
I got there, and the part that made me feel weird, was explained.
The guy wanted to meet out in the country at his home, because he could not drive, and the communication problems we had was because he was old and very hard of hearing.
I felt a little bad, for being suspicious of him, and ended up buying a really good old Grand Marquis for a very fair price.
No shots were fired :o

Don’t take this wrong but if you perceive the need to take a handgun and two spare mags as well as an AR with 4 or 5 loaded magazines, common sense dictates you just don’t go there in the first place.

And, in this case you’d have been packing all that allegedly defensive armament on to his property. That would not have looked at all reasonable in the eyes of local law enforcement if you had needed to defend yourself and shot the guy.
 
I carry a box of 50 rounds in the console safe in my Tacoma all the time. That’s a carry over from an event about 40 years ago where a state trooper responded to a roll over semi truck accident with a load of injured and broken legged cattle in the pot belly trailer. He didn’t have sufficient ammo to put them all down humanely.

It was one of the trucks owned by my uncle’s company and company policy from that day forward was a .357 and a full box of ammo in every truck.

At least in cattle country, there are times when you need more ammo than you’d normally carry.

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I normally carry one of my normal every day handguns plus a reload in the form of a loaded magazine or speed loader. Plus the above mentioned box of ammo, almost always a condensed plain cardboard “repack” box. On a longer road trip I’ll carry a back up gun in an ankle holster, mostly because it’s easy to draw when buckle in a vehicle.

There have been a couple times during periods of widespread civil unrest where you might not know quite what you’ll find a couple days and a thousand miles later that I have taken a take down carbine or braced pistol.


But there are a few things that I think are far more important:


1) If you *knowingly* go someplace where you feel the need to be armed with multiple spare mags, and or a long gun etc, you need to seriously rethink your need to go there. If it’s just on the route to your destination, replan your route.

2) What ever you take, leaving it in the glove compartment or any other unlocked place in your vehicle during your over night stop is not an acceptable practice. Period. Full stop.

Yes, it’s technically “locked” in your car and criminals should be more considerate of your property rights, but as a responsible gun owner there should be more than an easily broken window between a thief and your gun(s). If we as a community refuse to be more responsible about preventing gun thefts, more laws will be passed to mandate it.

3) It’s never a good idea to alarm the public. For example, if I travel with something scary looking, whether it’s during a period with mass protests, during a period of time unrest might be expected (verdict expected in an inflammatory criminal case, etc), or just to shoot recreationally at my destination I try not to advertise it.

A plain looking take down case with no gun logos is ok.

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Something like this Ukelele case is even better.
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4) Plan your route around areas where whatever you are carrying isn’t legal. If you have to go through a jurisdiction where it isn’t legal, comply fully with 18 USC 926(A) and don’t do anything that might provide probable cause for a stop.

18 USC 926(A):

“Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.”

For those with poor reading comprehension and or who just read bullet points that means:

All firearms in question must be:

- unloaded;
- neither the firearms nor ammo can be readily accessible to the driver;
- they must be carried in a compartment in the vehicle separate from the driver’s compartment (trunk, etc);
- if no separate compartment is available they must be carried in a locked container; and
- cannot be carried in the glove compartment or center console, even if they are locked.

In addition, case law has held that the individual must remain on a direct route to their destination. That means you can’t:

- deviate off your direct route to visit a tourist attraction;
- spend more than one night in the same location during your travel through the jurisdiction; or
- travel more than a reasonable distance off your direct route for fuel, food or over night lodging. (A “reasonable distance” is generally held to be about a mile.)

And again, it’s important not to do anything that might create probable cause for a stop, as many law enforcement officers in those jurisdictions are either honestly or willfully ignorant of 18 USC 926(A) and/or are quite happy arresting you and letting the desk sergeant or district attorney sort it out, pleading ignorance later, after your car has been towed, weapons impounded and booking you into the local jail.
 
When I fly one box because airlines require a box of ammunition, no loose ammo.

When I drive, maybe one spare magazine for a pistol and one reload for a revolver. Maybe.

It's not any different than when I'm home.

And you cannot plan your route based on Federal law. It only applies with respect to flying. When you drive with firearms you're subject to local rules and if you think FOPA is going to protect you, well, dream on.
 
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As a long time accumulator of 3rd Gen Smiths..... often when I travel but want to limit what I take.......
I'll swap out a 6904 w/ a flush fit (a 59 metal base plate) mag (or a mag with a ground back 59xx base plate) and 2 15rd mags with +2 adaptors.

This setup is only slightly thicker through the grip than my EDC 3913NL with Hogue Wood grips. Every Other dimension is the same on both guns.
But increases my ammo from 7+1+8 to 27+1 each with one extra mag. Or 43rounds if I have both extra mags. The 3913NL and 6904 both ride in a Milt Sparks Executive Companion holster.
 
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