How to get around drug testing

[rwsmith]

Unfortunately

rwsmith:

I apologize if my earlier post came off as being insensitive and/or non-supportive. Have you and your family considered counseling? If you have access to EAP (Employee Assistance Program) through your (or your wife's work, they can help. If not, I'm sure your personal physician could make a recommendation. I think counseling can help, but ultimately, it is going to be your son who must decide what he will, or won't do.

Good luck,

Dave

Unfortunately we have had professional counceling in several ways. My son doesn't like it because the counselor tells it like is and the boy doesn't like that because it cramps his style.

 

[THEWELSHM]

Ok this is a subject close to my heart for the following reasons. My son got into pot smoking at 13 yrs old by a friend of my older son. This drove a massive wedge between my wife my using son and I . over the years he moved out at 18 and became "basically a pot head" Its at that point in time I was with some influential people that shared a thing called "marchman act" this is a program in the state of Florida you can call and to jail they go and rehab. My wife and I discussed this with Michaels older brother and we set up with his lovely girlfriend to get him acted to save his life from drugs. We put him through the system for two years eventually he came to work for my company, a changed person and back to the son I used to have. This is where its gets unfortunate. My son still got his hair cut at the same barber shop. He got paid every Thursday, the last Thursday we ever saw him a man knocked on his door to rob him, his friend who had no firearm experience aimed for the hand holding a gun to my sons head. My sons friend was holding my sons 12 gage hunting gun and by accident shot his best friend in the neck, My son died shortly after. The police found the robber outside almost bled out, and saved him, he got two life sentences plus ten in the state of Florida. I guess the point Im trying to make is drugs are bad all the way across the board, My boy was clean for years but association caught up with him. I pray no other parent ever has to live this, and with that said I have nothing against fire arms, had his friend not pulled the trigger who knows where we would be? The robber had zip ties and all sorts of other things.

Rest in piece Michael Dad.

Hope the original poster doesnt give up on his boy and hope all other hug their kids every day.


thewelshm

 

[Camster]

One of the nicest kids that I've ever known,is now doing four months at a Pa. rehab center.It appears that one of the hottest trends these days is inhaling heroin.So much high quality product is in the area,that 10 bucks buys enough for them to get high.
I remember him coming home from his first few days of high school.He told me that every day he was solicited by students selling drugs.I was filled with such an empty feeling.Here I am at age 60,world traveled,etc.and no one has ever tried to sell me drugs.He finally succumbed to peer pressure or whatever.-The situation between his parents not helping.
Year after year,at this middle class/upper middle class school,there are pushers just off school property.Just disgusting.A silent plague that is largely unmentioned.

 

[laskt9]

Having raised three children by myself who have become successful, productive adults who now have families of their own, I have to disagree with you.

Permissiveness is never the answer.

Having had parents that raised me as you raised yours I can tell you it only made your kids better at hiding what they did.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

For the love of God get him off of this stuff-it's worse than marijuana. This is what it does to you.
Man blames fake pot for homicide - The Daily Iberian: News
There is stuff all over the net with horror stories as to what people do while under the influence of this stuff-I'd rather see my kid smoking weed than this garbage. This McKeel boy will spend the rest of his life in prison knowig that he killed not only his girlfriend but his unborn son who was about 2 weeks from delievery. I've seen a lot in my 30 years, but the pictures of this one pretty much sent me over the edge.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

THC stays in the muscles of the body forever. If you smoked as a teen ager and got a drug test 30 years after exercise you will show positive.

I'm throwing the flag on that one-show me your sources. I am heavily involved with the drug court programs and that just ain't true.

 

[HeyJoe]

as a person who went what you are going through now, i just want you to know there is hope. my son was going down that road. i stayed involved with him, stayed on him, tossed his room and clothes regularly, rewarded and punished him, made many a visit to school, etc. its very hard but stick with it. my son today is in the army in afghanistan right now and is doing very well.
if you have a volunteer fire department where you live try to get him to join the jr firefighters. he will learn quite a few things both medical and fire related, meet a better class of boys and girls, meet adults who have purpose, and start to get an alternative adrenaline fix.

 

[Sebago Son]

Having had parents that raised me as you raised yours I can tell you it only made your kids better at hiding what they did.

You don't know one damn thing about me or my children.

I know that my ability to parent was effective because that is exactly the way that THEY now parent.

I suggest you let it go at that.

 

[THEWELSHM]

I wish you well. You are in for a long, and painful road. GodSpeed.

But worth the effort.

thewelshm

 

[Comrad]

Around here we refer to people who smoke weed regularly for years and years as burn outs. You can spot them a mile away, always in a fog and a little stupid. I have an inlay who thinks it's harmless and he has no get up and go, sits on the couch watching cartoons all day, shame, thinks he's being responsible because he keeps fresh pee in the fridge to use for drug testing where he works. It may be harmless to your health but it sure can mess up your motivation to be productive.

 

[Mike McLellan]

Urine can be tested for Spice or K2. It's not cheap. Costs around $85.00. Medtox Laboratories of 401 W. County Rd., St. Paul, MN tests for it. Call them @ 1800-832-3244 & ask about test panel #19116 (synthetic cannabinoid).

 

[LVSteve]

Unfortunately we have had professional counceling in several ways. My son doesn't like it because the counselor tells it like is and the boy doesn't like that because it cramps his style.

He's not supposed to like it. This is why I have never had children, because I would be telling him that you don't get to pick your foster parents or juve cell mate.

 

[Stevens]

I wish you strength, good luck, and receptiveness on his side.
Steve W

 

[kamloops67]

the answer isnt where youre gonna read it , especially not here .
its between you and your son ,hes your boy .you two stay close whatever the two of you decide its family thats important, everything else is second.

 

[Intheshop]

Wishing you the very best of luck....prayers sent.

 

[Doug M.]

This hits home a little more now. I learned yesterday during lunch that I will be attending a funeral this week, work permitting. The 28 YO son of a man I know, respect, and consider a friend was found dead of an OD on Mother's Day. Do what you have to do to educate yourself and change the situation.

 

[BJoe]

Urine can be tested for Spice or K2. It's not cheap. Costs around $85.00. Medtox Laboratories of 401 W. County Rd., St. Paul, MN tests for it. Call them @ 1800-832-3244 & ask about test panel #19116 (synthetic cannabinoid).

I am glad someone came up with a test for that. Th synthetic drugs are REALLY dangerous.

 

[Shuutr]

Sounds like a tough road ahead. I have three little boys and drugs will be discussed early and often. Both illicit and prescription drugs (<--- number one cause of accidental death in the US above traffic accidents and firearms). My planned approach will be based on their personalities as they grow, but to me it's all about odds. The odds of bad thugs happening to you increase with every bad decision. Who you chose to hang out with, drinking and driving, recreational drug use, etc. There isn't going to be an immediate negative reaction with most bad decisions like hitting your thumb with a hammer when you hold a nail wrong. Do all druggies get in trouble? No, but the more people use, the higher the chances you will get caught or worse something horrible will happen (OD or kill someone else).

 

[Lil Muttlet]

Not qualified for advice; sending you well wishes, to both you and your child that you get through this.

 

[Penmon]

I went threw this **** with my brother for years, my parents would never let him hit bottom, started when he was in 6 th grade dead by 50, spent 10 of those in prison all due to drugs,booze and mental illness.

One answer as I see it , hard love, look it up, basically it's truth or conquencee in real terms.