CQB27
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My opinion (so since you asked) is Old Mas must be running out of things to talk about.
How to Index your trigger finger
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I totally concur with Ayoob. I do not see any correlation between finger position off the trigger and dangerous handling. All I know is that I adopted the Ayoob recommendation some time ago, and I place my finger tip on the slide just above the place in the trigger housing I want the finger to slide into. Slide the finger down and it is on the trigger. The extended finger position requires that I retract the finger and then drop it into the trigger housing and onto the trigger. Two movements is less efficient that one. Also, try both. You will find that with an extended finger you will find it more difficult to establish immediate good contact with the trigger than with the Ayoob method.
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This makes no sense to me whatsoever, looks like plenty of accidents waiting to happen. Plus if I index like that then there will be pressure on the frame and the gun will be tilted and not in the optimal shooting position meaning aligned with the arm.
This makes no sense to me whatsoever, looks like plenty of accidents waiting to happen. Plus if I index like that then there will be pressure on the frame and the gun will be tilted and not in the optimal shooting position meaning aligned with the arm.
Oddly, it makes perfect sense to me and I have been doing it for years. If you cannot place your finger on the side of the gun without moving it, you probably should not be using a gun. The finger position makes sense when you consider the dynamics of finger place met under stress. Let add to that this little tidbit. If you ever have the misfortune of being in a gunfight with a hand gun, and I did it too many times in Nam, you will quickly find out that all that theory is meaningless, and the most logical technique is best.
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I was in a class that was teaching the use of cover and concealment. It required movement on the part of the shooters. The course required the use of the straight finger method. While moving from one cover to another I did trip, ended up on my butt. As I went down my finger came off the trigger and hugged the slide. If my finger had not done the slide hug I would have had to take a seat and observe rather than participate in the rest of the course. My action made it easy for the instructor to see an ND was not about to happen.
I admire and appreciate Mr. Ayoob and started reading his books and articles >25 years ago. I have not read this particular article and don't know how Mr. Ayoob justified his new suggestion. Once I read the article, I may agree with him.
If curled, indexed finger gets wide acceptance it needs to be included in training courses so we can fight the way we trained.
The situation usually dictates where my index finger is positioned. It moves to the trigger in plenty of time from the low ready. I've mostly had revolvers and S&W TDAs or DAOs so it really isn't an issue for me. I never had to quick draw and fire my duty pistol.
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My index finger is already extended straight as I draw from my holster and ends up along the slide or cylinder. I'd be afraid with a curled finger that it would end up inside the trigger guard increasing the likelihood of a negligent discharge.
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He is just using the take down notch as a memory point its not so much the bent finger .. the notch is a feel point for him .. Berretta PX4's have a finger indentation on the frame just in front of the take down lever that does the same thing !!
You can use any point along the frame and do the same thing !!
You can use any point along the frame and do the same thing !!
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