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Wish I bought the one I seen at the show I was at recently. Crystal clear they wanted $160 for it. Had magnification unsure of how much though. The reticle was like an upside down half circle, like a U with a dot in the middle. Can't find one like it anywhere
 
I wouldn't give over $40 for that. Like others have said, big risk for something with no reviews. For budget optics, you are better off sticking with the Bushnell TRS-25 or something from Primary Arms.
 
Nice looking scope, but that's more or less standard cross hairs isn't it?

It has a Mil-dot reticle - how accurate is yet to be determined at the range.

The gimmicky thing about this one is the illuminated crosshairs can be set in either red or green, but also in 34 other colors.

Still, it includes the ability to adjust the brightness in any of the colors you choose. The glass isn't as good as Leupold, but...for $108 vs $640, I can live with it - even if bonuses don't show up to enable buying the Leupold VXR I really want.
 
Nice looking scope, but that's more or less standard cross hairs isn't it?

As opposed to sub-standard crosshairs???!!!:D

I would NOT buy that optic. Plain and simple; who makes it? Who does warranty service on it? Who does repairs on it?

To Krell's point- Amazon returns are basically only good with either known companies who have a return policy, or on immediate rejection; ie damaged in shipping, or the item not being what you thought upon opening.

After you open it, install it, and adjust it........ there are no more returns from 99.95% of anything bought on the internet which is not from a brick and mortar business.

I still fail to see why on earth a guy will look at an optic which 'looks' like what he wants to see on his rifle, rather than spending a whopping $20-40 more to get something that WORKS and is serviceable.

There should be no reason- ever- to pass on a Bushnell or Nikon at $160 to buy an unknown at $120. Even at $60; a scope which is jarred and does not hold zero from the recoil of the mighty .223 is not really going to work very well on a 22, or a BB gun for that matter.
UTG- stands for Under The Ground. Their stuff is that low.

I can not explain just how many optics we tested over the last 3 years when I was helping a friend who has an FFL and runs a small shop and does a lot of fun shows. We would get all kinds of folks saying "Put this optic on, put that optic on; it's great, blablabla....."
They would do all manner of failure. And I mean, every possible snafu you can imagine. No holding zero. No adjustment. No elevation. Or no windage. Reticles which go out every other shot. And then turn on magically after another shot or 2. Reticles which would twist inside the optic. Scopes which went blurry. Scopes which fog up just from you crowding the reticle a little with your eye. No rain, no fog. Scope goes from 3-9 power until you shoot with it; then it goes from 9 to 9, or 3 to 3........ The lit reticles have 5 settings. ALL of which are way too bright to actually see a target thru. And, for night hunting of varmints or hogs???? All you will see...... ALL you will see is a green mess, or a red mess, or any number of 34 different colors of mess which will block out any and all view of the creature you are trying to locate and shoot.

#1, first and foremost is scopes that simply will not dependably hold zero. These are 223. They are semi auto 223. The recoil is pathetic and weak. And you throw a fast 10 rounds thru it, and it's all over. It's now shooting 2feet wide, and a foot high. Well over 90% of the junk scopes do this. NcStar, UTG, Tasco, Barska, and the list goes on.
It got to where I would hand them back after test firing them, and the vendors would be upset with me for telling them we would not run them because they were faulty; ALL of them.
First argument was "Why is that? Did you mount them on a magnum of some kind? Yeeeahh.............. like I am wasting $1.75 a shot to send the 7mm mag ammo downrange with a cheap scope. Or, was I being a sadist, and lighting up $4 bills and my shoulder with the 338 RUM to knock the scope silly?? No. Would never even attempt such tomfoolery.

These optics will not hold zero from being bench fired. My hunting rifles all A: Kick a lot more than the AR, B: They have all taken the 'dirt road in the bed of the truck' test, and C: I think each one has been honestly DROPPED or fallen on more than once while actually hunting. And, they all hold their zero thru all of it.

Just buy once, and cry once.

There was a reason every guy in town told you about that one cheerleader who was the girl EVERY boy wanted to go out with on a Friday night. And, for good reason.:p
There is a good reason NO ONE has much positive to say about these junk optics.:cool:
 
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Any optic can fail. Optics from any and every brand arrive in a faulty state, or go bad during use. Granted there are some truly awful optics out there, but more often than not what you get when you spend the big bucks is a change in attitude.

A cheap optic fails: you grumble and moan about the cheap piece of junk. If it doesn't, you've saved money and think yourself a clever devil.

An expensive optic fails: You send it in for warranty work and praise the company for such a fine product and excellent customer service. If it doesn't fail, it's because (clearly) you bought quality.

Spend what you can and congratulate yourself on your purchase, there really isn't any more you can do.
 
One word. Chinese.

I'd get at least something made in the Philippines if you don't have the budget (such as Burris).

There's plenty of good scopes for not much more that are decent quality and American made. The entry Leupold scopes or the Mark AR series would be a good start. Nikon has good scopes coming out of Japan as well.

I've got Chinese scopes on airguns only. I would not put such junk on any serious firearm.
 
Here's something in a similar price range with good reviews:

Amazon.com: UTG 30mm SWAT 3-12X44 Compact IE Scope with AO Mil-dot, 36 Colors EZ-TAP: Sports & Outdoors

For the price, I snagged one for my new AR build until I can swing the Leupold I really want.
I know there's plenty of UTG haters out there, but so far I'm fairly impressed - especially given the price.

I just bought this exact scope for my Sport. Only been to the range once with it, but so far im very pleased. And the reviews seem to be spot on. Very happy with my purchase.
 
If you want to go cheap but good, get something from Primary Arms. I have some of their red dots and the customer service cannot be beat.
 
OP,

Cyphertext and Rojodiablo are spot on. I am very sympathetic to being on a budget, and wanting the best bang for the buck. While the red devil can come off as harsh, it's because he wants to keep others from making mistakes. Trust me...

... And you throw a fast 10 rounds thru it, and it's all over. It's now shooting 2feet wide, and a foot high. Well over 90% of the junk scopes do this. NcStar, UTG, Tasco, Barska, and the list goes on.

Bingo. Bingo. Bingo. Bingo. Unfortunately this has been my experience. The low price suckered me in.

There should be no reason- ever- to pass on a Bushnell or Nikon at $160 to buy an unknown at $120.

Bingo. After being burned by NcStar, UTG, Tasco, Barska, I purchased a Bushnell "T-Dot". It cost me about $140. It's held up to my use, has good adjustment, I like the reticule.

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I've also had good results with Primary Arms, particularly their M3 clone.


There was a reason every guy in town told you about that one cheerleader who was the girl EVERY boy wanted to go out with on a Friday night. And, for good reason.:p

ROTFL.
 
That's a tactical scope all right! Man, I'd stay away from that. I've had so many scope over the years that I've simply come to grips that decent glass can cost you in most cases but there are some budget options as well. But there's no reason anyone has to go for a no-name tactical optic when there are others available. Primary Arms has been mentioned and I'll agree 100% that you just can't go wrong. They stand by their product, have a great track record and it shows up at your door right about the time you hit "submit". I think they have a 3x compact that looks tactical if that's what you're looking for.

Lot of guys here with experience just trying to help you avoid a drawer full of mistakes.
 
The first & last NcStar optic I purchased ended up on my son's airsoft gun. Not because it would hold zero on there, but because it looked cool on there. :D
 
Wish I bought the one I seen at the show I was at recently. Crystal clear they wanted $160 for it. Had magnification unsure of how much though. The reticle was like an upside down half circle, like a U with a dot in the middle. Can't find one like it anywhere

Here ya go. And Primary Arms has a good reputation for dime store optics.

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary-Arms-2-5X-Compact-Scope-PAC2-5X-p/pac2.5x.htm

As far as the particular scope you linked, it's just another dime store optic that can be seen all over the Net with slight variations. It will probably work maybe sorta. The biggest problem with all this Chinese made tactical whizz-bang stuff is will it actually work out of the box and will the reticle be canted to the point that you have to lean on something to keep from falling over.... :rolleyes: Otherwise, this stuff usually holds up for a while for fair-weather range shooting until the operator decides he wants something decent.
 
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Trashman4015;

The points folks have made about quality optics are well taken - and I should point out that I'm only hoping the UTG I picked up will tide me over till bonus time when I pick up what I really want - a Leupold VXR 4-12x50mm. I'm fortunate in that if this fails, it isn't going to break the bank, and I knew I was taking a chance on this optic - even though I've had good luck with other UTG products. If you're looking for a primary optic that you don't intend to replace, spend a few more bucks on something like what red devil was suggesting.

This scope may turn out to be the useless *** red devil suggests - and it might not. Time will tell...
 
If you're looking for a tacticool reticle, Primary Arms has a 1-6 scope that's been getting rave reviews. It's more than the optic you've been looking at, but I think we're all in agreement that that is overpriced junk from China. It also has a reticle that's inline with what you're looking for.

Primary Arms is a great company and stands behind their products. I have one of their scopes and love it.

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary-Arms-1-6X-Scope-with-ACSS-Reticle-p/pa1-6xrbd.htm
 
If you're looking for a tacticool reticle, Primary Arms has a 1-6 scope that's been getting rave reviews. It's more than the optic you've been looking at, but I think we're all in agreement that that is overpriced junk from China. It also has a reticle that's inline with what you're looking for.

Primary Arms is a great company and stands behind their products. I have one of their scopes and love it.

https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary-Arms-1-6X-Scope-with-ACSS-Reticle-p/pa1-6xrbd.htm

So the magnification is adjustable on this one?
 

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