Hummmm..."Live" Audio of how it went down?

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What say I? I say LE did what it had to do in taking down an armed killer who was barricaded in a cabin and showed no inclination of surrendering or ending his violent ways. If the PC folks didn't like LE trying to smoke him out, then maybe the PC folks should have gone up there to negotiate with the individual. Heaven forbid LE uses deadly force to end such a terrible scenario.
 
It was so compelling when I first heard it that I wasn't sure, with todays technology, that it was real or not. No question in my mind that he deserved what he got.
 
From the outset, it was clear that the end was going the way of Butch & Sundance. The shame is that good people were lost simply doing their jobs.
 
All I have to say is the conditions for the reward was capture and convict. Then if the police decide to end the stand off by burning him out they ought to pay the reward anyway.
 
jaykellogg said:
All I have to say is the conditions for the reward was capture and convict. Then if the police decide to end the stand off by burning him out they ought to pay the reward anyway.
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THATS what you got from listening to that? Maybe this wasn't such a good idea...
 
Efficient. That's what I take away. Low risk to any additional officers. Insurance will cover the property owner (you think?).

The guy made his own bed. Bed time for a murdering creep.

Out
West
 
.my take ... Im kinda conflicted.
Yeah the cretin earned an exit with high thermal properties, or perhaps the wrong end of a rope, or even something out of someones dark ages dungeon collection like and iron maiden or a rack.
if the community had converged upon him, yeah I'd expect this and turn a blind eye.
But these are the police ... the chosen ones who should adhere to a higher standard.
I can't quite find resolution here.
 
I don't worry much about the Civil Rights of someone who has proven to be a calculating, cold-blooded murderer. I guess I'm just wishing he'd gotten his reward a good bit sooner. Thankfully, there will be no appeals stretching on for year after year.
 
He was an AWOL ex cop and former military.

He said he would tagret uninvolved cops and their families.

Thats willful violence//// period.

I cannot believe cnn had shouts about
the parralels to a similar J. Foxx film which
was incrediblely, historically innnacurate...

Seemingly sedicious, thanks Q. Tarrin...

Ruined my fav. arch. site of LA for me...

A lot of this brutality is exagereated by
lack of compliance between arrested individuals
or some rare serious disorder on the other side.
 
I hope the folks that lost their cabin don't get raked over the coals , so to speak.

The insurance company will say it's the police departments fault and they should pay. The PD says the state should pay.

Perhaps the folks should get their cabin rebuilt out of the reward funds?
 
I just want to know if they had one of those "no knock warrants" we're always hearing about. If so, I think they should instead have knocked or waited for him to come out to go to the grocery store or something and then arrested him peacefully or just shut the water off and waited until he got thirsty.
 
MaximumLawman said:
I just want to know if they had one of those "no knock warrants" we're always hearing about. If so, I think they should instead have knocked or waited for him to come out to go to the grocery store or something and then arrested him peacefully or just shut the water off and waited until he got thirsty.
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He would have just shot them thru the door.
 
Put yourself in their position.
Did they have other choices? Sure.
Did they show him any less compassion
than he showed his victims?
I don't think so. One more innocent person
killed is not worth it.
 
I think the defense here is that LE intention was to "flush him out" with fire. Nothing on this audio contradicts that. It sounds as though Dorner chose to take his own life. I believe their tactics to be equal to the threat and totally just.
I'm sure someone out there will rant about his civil rights blah, blah, blah.....
 
Kanewpadle said:
If someone wants to play dirty, the rules go out the window.
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Right thar ya go! ^^^

I've worked stand-offs.....They ain't no fun.
Especially when ya have to make entry to root some sumbitch out!

So in this particular incident....

This outlaw choose his path....And he choose poorly.


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I just heard that his body has been identified via. dental records. Nothing "official" yet on the cause of death. I am sure it will comeback as a suicude.
 
When they said he was in the cabin, I told the wife if they find out he has no hostages.. they're going to have a BBQ!
 
It was done the way it should have been. I hope the cabin owners are well compisated insurance or no insurance. They probley will be. If not, thats when I will loudly join whoever protests.
 
Firstly, he got what he deserved. Secondly, if the officers could have taken him alive they would have. They know this is a nation of laws and LEOs are not judge, jury, and executioner. Thirdly, it is better to end the standoff quickly than to allow it to go on, giving him a voice to the media and allowing those dirtbag supporters of him to congregate (though some friendly fire in their direction would not have bothered me in the least).

So, are all their firearms now officially BBQ guns?? I know, I know, I'm a sick *******.............
 
MaximumLawman said:
I just want to know if they had one of those "no knock warrants" we're always hearing about. If so, I think they should instead have knocked or waited for him to come out to go to the grocery store or something and then arrested him peacefully or just shut the water off and waited until he got thirsty.
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Over the years they've cooked up many whiz bang gadgets to assist in these sorts of deals.
LEO involvement spanned the Sheriff, State, LAPD, and FBI.
I'd think that between them, Assets would be mind boggling.
yet .. lets just torch the joint rather than fly in the elements of a more elegant solution ....
heck, give me a muffler, a drill, a gas grill, flex pipe, a leaf blower and a jug of cod liver oil and i'll flush you out of anywhere while you show everyone what you ate in the past few days.

Authorities had specifically labeled him a "domestic terrorist." A drone strike would have been way cool to watch.

A quick termination of these situations sends a positive message as far as I'm concerned.
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yeah ... that would have been some choice footage.
But the second the Maverick leaves the rail, this country changes forever
 
Now I'm curious. What 'rights' does a domestic terrorist have while in a gunfight with the police?
 
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