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Went to Dick's Sporting Goods yesterday to see if I could pick up some .22LR ammo on sale in the paper.....just sold out, which is exactly what I expected. Noticed a Troy battlesight adj. tool..........kind of pricey, but not too bad with the 30% off. Took it to the register & the guy wanted my ID - gave it to him & said "you must be joking". He said "no, the register says I have to verify you are over 18". Laughed all the way home. Has anyone else run into this nonsense????
 
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Not at all uncommon. Many stores want proof of age for firearms related items. It's been that way for some time now.
 
It is ludicrous to ask for id other than ammo purchases and then only if questionable age. Firearms would not apply as necessary id and approval are routinely completed. It is just another situation where store policy is established because they cannot depend on or discourage "common sense" decision making by their employee.
 
Ibmikey said:
It is ludicrous to ask for id other than ammo purchases and then only if questionable age. Firearms would not apply as necessary id and approval are routinely completed. It is just another situation where store policy is established because they cannot depend on or discourage "common sense" decision making by their employee.
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Whether you agree or not, it's common place and, most likely, will spread. Stores are simply covering themselves.

After 01 October, in Connecticut a permit will be required to purchase ANY firearm, ANY ammunition and ANY magazine, regardless of capacity. The requirements for obtaining the permit will be the same as those for a handgun carry permit. In fact, all use exactly the same application form.
 
I was asked at dicks sporting goods if I was a. US citizen. When I bought ammo last year. Now that's a funny one
 
Majorlk, I don't disagree with you, just the system we have built. As a kid a zillion years ago we bought rifles, ammo etc and no one carded a twelve year old. It was common on Sat. to see a couple of .22 leaning against the outside wall of the grocery while we bought a Pepsi. As kids none of us got thrown in jail nor committed heinous crimes and I am not naive enough to think the "good" times will ever return. Rural Washington is not like living in NY city but I still lock my doors when leaving and carry the majority of the time..(also keep my Westie nearby for protection). :-)
 
Wouldn't it be nice to go "back to the good old days?" I suppose it depends on what each person thinks made them good, but I am talking about when you could take a gun to school and no one assumed anything about murderous intent, where any little kid could go to the hardware store and buy 22 LR ammo, and where you could carry, in absence of a permit, and the police knew you were ok and so they didn't say anything.

I didn't much care for lack or reliable air conditioning or the frequency of flat tires or, for that matter, the possibility of the Soviets dropping an atomic bomb, but for the most part most of us have seen "happier times."
 
I went to a Dick's for the first time yesterday because it was there. I asked where all the handguns were and they told me they haven't sold handguns in 13 years. I doubt if I'll ever go back to one. I did buy some 12 gauge 00 buckshot though and some 22 patches that I had to show ID for! Doubt if I'll ever step foot in a Dick's again!
 
YEARS ago, my mother would ask me to bring her to BJ's Warehouse. The only reason she wanted to go was, so they would card her for her ID when she bought a bottle of Bailey's Irish Cream. She was 73 at the time, and laughed all the way home each time. She's gone now, but it stills makes me smile.
 
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All I ever hear is stories like these and on top of their Big 5 prices and the well-known anti-2A stance, it's beyond me why firearm-owners would go there and give them their money.
 
It's sad to me that some of us have accepted this behavior from establishments that are not required by law to ask for ID in order to sell gun related supplies. It is just their "policy" and nothing more than an attempt to codify the ignorant and misinformed. I will not do any business with stores who practice these ridicules policies.
How much are we willing to let them take with only a whimper? We are not criminals and I will not be treated like one! I live in NY and have done all I can to educate the gun ignorant public and although the politicians have us against the wall we can not wimp out.

Len
 
Don't take this story as a "topper" but I had to share.

In January of 2013, I had to take a quick trip from IL to South Dakota for work. Went to O'Hare and presented my govt. ID in the security line. The govt. ID I chose to present was an IL Firearms Owner Identification Card. The only state in the Union that has such a card I might add.

I will say I addressed everyone professionally, did not cause a scene and approached my effort with a sincere tone.

First TSA agent stated my FOID card was not a valid form of govt. ID. I politely asked him to show me where in their manual or training documentation it stated that it is not a valid govt. ID. I stated it is the same photo that the State uses on my Driver's License and that it is issued by the govt. of the State of IL. I stated I reviewed tsa.gov website and it said nothing specifically for or against using this govt. issued ID.

The TSA Agent pretty much locked up. Didn't have an answer and at no point asked for another form of ID. He called for the supervisor... This is where it got good.

Supervisor - "What is the problem sir?"
First TSA Agent - "He gave me this ID and I told him it's not an acceptable form of ID."
Me - "If you don't mind, I'd like to understand the requirement of a govt. issued photo ID to enter the gate area."
Supervisor - "Where's the book at? The book shows what's acceptable."
First TSA Agent - "Here"
Supervisor - thumbs through page after page..."I know in our training recently they said we can't use these."
Me - "That's great and all but this is a govt. issued photo ID per TSA's requirement. Can you show me the information that states it is not valid?"
Supervisor - "Look, we aren't trying to be jerks. I know it's in here someplace."
Me - "Cool. Let's see if we can find it."
Supervisor - "Do you have another ID?"
First TSA Agent - "He wouldn't give me one."
Me - "You sir, did not ask. But since your supervisor did, here. And oddly, the same photo is not only on the FOID card, but it's the same exact photo on the Driver's License."
Supervisor - "Ok, thanks."
Both of them look at the ID's.
Supervisor - "He's good to go. Thank you sir."
Me - "Thanks, however. I'd like to ensure my understanding is correct. This state all 3 of us live in requires me to have a govt. issued FOID card. You are stating I cannot use this ID. I find that slightly disturbing."
Supervisor (after first TSA agent walks away) - "Look, I was a former cop, I have one of these too. Just use your driver's license next time."
Me - "Sure thing."

I leave for the gate and head to South Dakota.

On the return trip, I leave through Rapid City, SD airport. I could tell the TSA agents there were probably former military and also very friendly and professional.

Me - "Hi, can I use this ID here?"
TSA Agent - "Whatcha got?"
Me - "A govt. issued photo ID."
TSA Agent - "Yep, looks good to me."
Me - "Hilarious, I used this on the trip out here and was denied entry."
TSA Agent - "Who knows."
Me - "Kinda funny, the state of IL issues this card if you want to own a firearm, uses the same photo from your DL and it's not valid."
TSA Agent - chuckles
Me - "Ok, have a nice day."
TSA Agent - "You too sir."

Now, I'm not at all saying the govt. is out to get me, TSA agents are tools or anything like that. I'm merely pointing out that you need a photo ID of some sort to do just about everything in this country...

But vote...
 
They consider 100 round packs to be "bulk" boxes, so your limit was one. :( I was only in Dicks to get the something for one of the kids and happened to see MiniMags ... something I havent seen in a long time. Had the wife with me, so I was able to get two boxes for $7.99 each. They actually had quite a bit of ammo.
 
This unfortunately is not the same country we grew up in, I can only imagine what it will be like in say 20 years. Everytime I travel to my favorite destinations of Thailand and the Philippines I meet more and more expats. Most all are retired and say they have a better standard of living for a lot less money. I have to admit I feel safer in Bangkok than my old home town of Chicago. Now that would be humorous if it wasn't so sadly true.
 
Ibmikey said:
Majorlk, I don't disagree with you, just the system we have built. As a kid a zillion years ago we bought rifles, ammo etc and no one carded a twelve year old. It was common on Sat. to see a couple of .22 leaning against the outside wall of the grocery while we bought a Pepsi. As kids none of us got thrown in jail nor committed heinous crimes and I am not naive enough to think the "good" times will ever return. Rural Washington is not like living in NY city but I still lock my doors when leaving and carry the majority of the time..(also keep my Westie nearby for protection). :-)
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Ibmikey: I remember those days - when the GCA of 1968 went into effect, I was 12 years old. The only question that some of the clerks asked you when you were buying .22 caliber ammo was: "Now you're buying that to use in a rifle - right?" Man, I miss those days. BTW - I applaud you on your choice of K-9. Westies are grand little dogs, aren't they? We had one I named "Indie" (short for "Indiana Bones" - it was during the time that the Harrison Ford movie Indidana Jones first came out) that was a big dog in a little dog's body.

Regards,

Dave
 
I too have been carded for various purchases and with a full head of gray hair at age 60 I laugh as I show it and never miss an opportunity to make a jerk out of the buffoon asking but the reason is this. Where do you draw the line at asking for ID? 25, 30, older younger? For the same reason cashiers don't know what to do when you buy 2 items that are marked 4 for a dollar or when the register doesn't tell them how much change to give out of a dollar for a 90 cent purchase this is what we get. The dumbing down of America will continue until further notice.
 
I don't get carded for being a senior on Wednesdays Senior Discount Day at my little ole grocery store.

Maybe there is an old man looking back at me in the mirror:mad::D:D:D


WuzzFuzz
 
Walmart, several years back. The belt-loop on my leather Leatherman case broke, so I bought a nylon sheath in sporting goods. I happened to be watching the register when that sheath crossed the scanner. "IS CUSTOMER 18?" Cashier did not ask, she just hit "yes" and went on with life. I was obviously over 18. But this was not to buy ammo. This was not even to buy a knife (and there is no law in Florida that gives an age requirement to buy a knife - well, maybe in Miami. They're weird) but to buy a knife SHEATH.

Every time I flew I would use my line-badge as a photo ID. Six different airports in Florida. Atlanta. Wichita, San Juan, Pittsburg, everywhere. They ALL knew what a line badge was, and they all accepted it, even in New Jersey. Except for one dinky little strip in West-by-God Virginia. Lady would not accept it. Said I needed a drivers license. I asked if, I did not drive, I could not get on the plane? "This is government issued photo ID". Nope. Not at HER airport.
 
Alpo...Been there done that...

When I was still working for the FAA as a Inspector, more than one airport would not give me access to the operations area, even though I had my 110A and Badge + Federal issued photo......

DUH...But now we have TSA to save us, from bad people having access to the airport.


WuzzFuzz
 
I guess I'm not as easily offended as some... I find some of these business policies funny at best and mildly bothersome at worst. I shop where businesses have products and services that I need at prices that are OK and located conveniently for me. ID checking barely plays into the equation.

I also do not get offended by a business that no longer sells guns or whatever. Most have to make a business decision for a multitude of reasons which I can understand.

However, where I draw the line is shopping/supporting business that get involved politically or on their soap box about issues that I don't support. Example: Ben & Jerry's ice cream is some of the best around... but I can find others just as good and available. ChunkyMonkey will not pass my lips.
 
I went to Petco for mice to feed my pet python, Nancy. They required I fill out a form and check a box indicating that I would take care of the mice until they were used for their "intended purpose." I said "Are you kidding, I'm going to feed them to a snake!" They said "no your going to use them for an intended purpose." Go figure, I signed the form and fed my snake.
 
These "businesses" are run by the lawyers who are all running scared to death that someone "May" buy some ammo, a knife, or anything else sharp and use it for some crime!!!

You ain't blaming Dick's Sporting Goods Store.....................

I just stay out.........................someday, hopefully, the management will be in charge again........before they go bankrupt!!
 
This may be something all of you have figured out, but the reason for carding everyone at a bar, regardless of how "old" they look, is litigation. Frivolous lawsuits abound. If they card EVERYONE, no one can come back later and say they were singled out because of gender, ethnic background or (insert ridiculous premise here) and that they were discriminated against.

If asked, I just show them my drivers' license and make a joke about how much the picture looks like me, and that it used to be if you looked enough like your drivers' license photo to be recognized by it you were too sick to be out of the house.

The poor kid at the register is doing what the register tells him to do. He has zero authority to bypass whatever regulation his employer has told him is their way of handling the transaction. If I decide that I think it's unjust, I can decline to purchase whatever it is, and do what many of you have stated you did; either take my business elsewhere or write to the company. Or both.

We've all seen, heard, and posted here about people who go off on a store clerk. I'm pleased to be part of a forum where such behavior is shunned, rather than bragged about.
 
I had to show an ID to buy shot shell wads in Fleet Farm in Minnesota. The clerk thought it was crazy, but store policy. I am 62.
 
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