I am so disapointed.

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I took my Sigma to the range for the first time in a long while today. Well, the first time I've ever actually taken it to a range. All the other shooting I've done with it was plinking cans and such.

Even though I was shooting a box of my own reloads, one of the first boxes of 9mm ammo I'd reloaded, that silly gun just worked like a champ. Not one malfunction. I even managed to hit the target a time or two, which if you know me you'd realize what a surprise that is. :eek: Shoot. I didn't even pull my finger out of joint pulling the trigger. :o

Now what am I going to gripe about in the "I hate Sigma's" threads? :confused: ;)
 
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Now what am I going to gripe about in the "I hate Sigma's" threads? :confused: ;)[/QUOTE]

That theres no subcompact??
 
I think the only complaint is that it's made in the USA! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Took my 9wve to range shot 100rounds and the pin that holds trigger in was backing out. Put 50more and the trigger felt loose to me.probably needs to be staked in, but I traded if in on a Taurus millennia.
 
My 40VE works like a champ with anything I feed it.& didn't cost an arm & leg. Made by Smith & Wesson in the good old USA by American workers. What am I doing wrong?? What's wrong with the pistol? Who at S&W do I contact? Which forum do I go on to complain loudly? I was told by many that the Sigma was junk. Where can I find those people to thank them for setting me straight? Even the trigger feels good after dry firing & shooting some rounds downrange. Something isn't right!
 
Took my 9wve to range shot 100rounds and the pin that holds trigger in was backing out. Put 50more and the trigger felt loose to me.probably needs to be staked in, but I traded if in on a Taurus millennia.

If that pin backs out on the Sigma, the pin is installed backwards.
 
I had a Sigma 9 that I put 2,000 flawless rds. of my reloads thru. Sold it for something else, but I had no complaints!
 
I've put nealry 500 rnds through mine & other than the trigger I have no complaints. Shoots well & well worth the price. I too wish they had a sub-compact as I'm looking for a good CCW... :D
 
You can complain about customer service. I know you haven't used it but the people who complain about Sigmas haven't use one either. ! :D
 
Took my 9wve to range shot 100rounds and the pin that holds trigger in was backing out. Put 50more and the trigger felt loose to me.probably needs to be staked in, but I traded if in on a Taurus millennia.


My first handgun was the SD40VE and I've had no real problems with it. Got a used Taurus Millennium and problems with the trigger safety engaging when it shouldn't have been. Removed the trigger safety and haven't had a problem since. I'll still take the made in the USA S&W over the made in Brazil Taurus.

Later,
Hock
 
Well, you cant brag to the other Mall Ninjas about how much you spent and how smart that makes you. I qualified for my CHL with my Sigma. Another shooter showed up with a $1,000 plus custom 1911. My Sigma performed flawlessly and I shot 49 out of 50. His custom 1911 choked so badly he could not finish. I had an extra box of ammo and loaned him my Sigma and the ammo and he finished the course.
 
I sold dozens of them when I worked at Bass Pro if they weren't any good you'd think the word would get out.

Mike Grandick
 
I had a SW40VE it was a solid gun never any trouble I just did not like that funny trigger.
 
Love My SW40VE trigger and all one wish would be one in black so I could have two and be able to tell them apart
 
I took my Sigma to the range for the first time in a long while today. Well, the first time I've ever actually taken it to a range. All the other shooting I've done with it was plinking cans and such.

Even though I was shooting a box of my own reloads, one of the first boxes of 9mm ammo I'd reloaded, that silly gun just worked like a champ. Not one malfunction. I even managed to hit the target a time or two, which if you know me you'd realize what a surprise that is. :eek: Shoot. I didn't even pull my finger out of joint pulling the trigger. :o

Now what am I going to gripe about in the "I hate Sigma's" threads? :confused: ;)

I'm sorry for your suffering.

However, if you start messing with it like many of the kitchen table gunsmiths by trying to put in new action parts (APEX or perhaps others), taking out springs and other parts S&W thought necessary to the design (those silly gun designers at S&W), and maybe do some of your own modifications, you too can have an unreliable SIGMA and come on here and complain bitterly about how S&W will not fix your gun for free or turn it into a Performance Center match gun for $50.00 with free shipping. :)
 
I'm sorry for your suffering.

However, if you start messing with it like many of the kitchen table gunsmiths by trying to put in new action parts (APEX or perhaps others), taking out springs and other parts S&W thought necessary to the design (those silly gun designers at S&W), and maybe do some of your own modifications, you too can have an unreliable SIGMA and come on here and complain bitterly about how S&W will not fix your gun for free or turn it into a Performance Center match gun for $50.00 with free shipping. :)

Hey, now...you'd be ruining my side business of buying these "junk Sigmas" and repairing them, then reselling them for a small profit!

My latest acquisition is a SW9VE that includes a homemade take down plate that sticks, ball point pen spring, and a botched polish job. I actually traded a Mossberg 702 Plinkster for it...and I only paid $79 for the Mossberg a few years ago for my son. The boy has since been upgraded to a Ruger 10/22.

I think I have enough spare parts in the shop for it, including the TD plate from when I changed mine for a wider one.

When done, I should have no problem getting $275 or more.
 
Hey, now...you'd be ruining my side business of buying these "junk Sigmas" and repairing them, then reselling them for a small profit!

My latest acquisition is a SW9VE that includes a homemade take down plate that sticks, ball point pen spring, and a botched polish job. I actually traded a Mossberg 702 Plinkster for it...and I only paid $79 for the Mossberg a few years ago for my son. The boy has since been upgraded to a Ruger 10/22.

I think I have enough spare parts in the shop for it, including the TD plate from when I changed mine for a wider one.

When done, I should have no problem getting $275 or more.

Oops. Sorry about that! :)

I would not want to take away your business!

There is another thread on here about a gent who carved away a substantial portion of his SWVE frame (cannot remember if it is a 9 or 40), and fabricated his own take down plate from aluminum.

I am not sure about that, but on the Glock, it is used to lock the barrel and must be placed in correct orientation after removal. I thought perhaps it was a stressed part and therefore might need to be steel having plenty of support from the sides of the frame. I always wonder about this stuff, but perhaps I should just let it go so you have plenty of "defective" SIGMAs to buy, fix and resell. :)
 
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a62rambler, gotta take exception to that remark. I did own a Sigma for app 3-4 days and couldn't get rid of it fast enough. the retired cop that sold it to me as part of a package deal couldn't git rid of it quick enough either. when S&W were briefly taken over and wanted to compete with the cheaper black plastic market and FIRST CAME OUT WITH THE SIGMA. there were plenty of bugs in them like: Hercules couldn't fully load a mag, the mag would invariably fall out on the ground after a couple of shots, if the mag did manage to stay put, there were lots of ftf's and fte's. so my gripes about them are first hand exp's. the newer ones are a whole other story and I'm saying nothing about THEM.
 
Oops. Sorry about that! :)

I would not want to take away your business!

There is another thread on here about a gent who carved away a substantial portion of his SWVE frame (cannot remember if it is a 9 or 40), and fabricated his own take down plate from aluminum.

I am not sure about that, but on the Glock, it is used to lock the barrel and must be placed in correct orientation after removal. I thought perhaps it was a stressed part and therefore might need to be steel having plenty of support from the sides of the frame. I always wonder about this stuff, but perhaps I should just let it go so you have plenty of "defective" SIGMAs to buy, fix and resell. :)

I have a VE model in .40 cal that I'm waiting on a frame for. The previous owner took too much away from the frame, and it can't be saved. I may just use it as spare parts for other ones I pick up.

I like these guns...very simple with an easy to understand firing system. All too often, people think they know what they are doing when trying to modify them, but ruin them in the process. Granted, these are inexpensive handguns, and they are designed to be cheaply manufactured, but there isn't much that can be done to improve them, because of the design.

I carry one daily, concealed or open, depending on the weather. I know that each time I pick ut up, it will fire properly. I know that I can trust my life on it to operate as designed...which is better than my 1911's. With the exception of my AO 1911, which is a true mil-spec version, I wouldn't trust them to do what they are supposed to do, because I've modified them so much. The VE versions are perfect, if not a bit too wide. They are a great handgun, perfect for personal defense, and were priced, much like the SD line, in the range that most homes can afford one.

Perhaps one day someone will eventually come along and design an aluminum trigger for the Sigma/SD versions, but I doubt it. The cost to develop and test them would be so high that the average owner won't put the cash out for the improvement.

I'm currently working on an the housing for the sear block trying to cheaply insert a .015" piece of stainless steel so the sear block rides on steel instead of plastic. This is where the gritty trigger comes from. No amount of polishing the transfer bar will improve the feel of the trigger. I'm also messing around with a larger diameter pin to connect the transfer bar to the sear block, in hopes of lessening the trigger travel. All of this takes a lot of time, and the demand for the improvement is low...for the average owner.

In the end, this isn't a weapon that is highly sought after, isn't a weapon that is cheaply improved upon, but is a very reliable handgun that will work each time if left alone.

As long as there are people screwing around with them, I'll be able to repair them and sell them rather cheaply. :D
 
I've owned a Sigma 9, SD9 (original, not VE), M&P 9C, and now a Shield 9. Never had a bit of trouble out of any of them. After I did the trigger spring fix on the Sigma, it shoots as good as the rest at 10 yards. Really, that's what it was designed for.
 
I've owned a Sigma 9, SD9 (original, not VE), M&P 9C, and now a Shield 9. Never had a bit of trouble out of any of them. After I did the trigger spring fix on the Sigma, it shoots as good as the rest at 10 yards. Really, that's what it was designed for.

Exactly...these aren't match pistols. They are, however, a reliable SD weapon.
 
I just purchased a Sigma in 9MM from my local Gander Mountain yesterday. For $349.00 before taxes, a pistol with such fit and finish seems to be a real bargain! As it's my 12th S&W in nearly 4 decades of shooting, I suspect I'll like it.
 
I would still complain about my first gen Sigma if I really thought it was worth doing so.

But the last gen Sigma I had and sold (shouldn't to that...) was just fine. I really enjoyed having it as the bedside gun the whole time I had it.

I'm still thinking of adding the newest SD to the collection.
 
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