I bought the last gun I'm going to in this lifetime

[bluegrassarms]

Jeez, dogpile.

2) Yes I did sign electronically.

Fascinating. Walmart has added something to the e-form then to make that possible. I find that annoying b/c I inquired of ATF about e-signature options and was told I couldn't do that. I would have handed someone a pad and let them digitally sign on it, but they said we had to print it and sign the paper. Once you have to do that there isn't a lot of benefit to doing it on the computer. A new version of the form may be out, I haven't looked at it in a couple of years.

The paper is working fine for us, and I have no desire to assist in ATF's ability to absorb the records into a registry database at some future date, so I'll stick to paper, but it's interesting they are able to do an e-signature.

You don't have to answer, but did they use the signature pads they use for signing credit cards? Walmart uses the Ingenico units I believe. I wonder if they ever print out and store a hardcopy and merge that signature onto it.

 

[pharmer]

BGA, there was a separate "signer" that was not the card swiper. He did print out the 4473 with my electronic signature on it. Also told me this "new" system has been in place a week. Joe

 

[bluegrassarms]

Thanks pharmer. Very interesting. I'll have to look into it. Like I said paper is working fine right now, even for our big gun auctions, we hand the forms out when they buy their first gun so we can stay ahead of them checking out, but I like to keep up on these kinds of developments.

Sounds like they may have a custom system for it. Makes sense given their scale. I'd want one of I was responsible for ATF compliance for all of Walmart. I imagine they got some variances from ATF, the regs are pretty antiquated when it comes to the use of computers and I'd want ATF blessing in writing for such a venture.

 

[mickeyblueyes]

Watch that stuff!! Im 80 and no ready to go quite yet. My partner is 90, fought in e Battle of the Bulge, and buys guns at gun shows like there's no tomorrow.

Well I am well behaved and have good manors and come from a good family. Would you consider adoption? I can bring some nice grand kids if that would please you? Now tell me about your gun collection........................lol

 

[usm1rifle]

I would not say "last gun" unless I was really old. Like maybe 60 and ready to keel over.

Out
West

****, I WISH I was 60 again!

 

[the ringo kid]

LOL... why so concerned about the box??

Because having box in store bought condition and if he decides to get rid of gun-and box goes with it--which makes it worth more as a whole-just like any other collectable or item one buys that comes in a box.

Try selling a matched pair of Colt presentation pistols without their box--still worth a mint--just not as much as it COULD be. Consider me one of those who want boxes in as best condition as possible. My STG-44/22 came in wooden crate-and crate came in cardboard box. All still together and in mint condition.

 

[the ringo kid]

I guess I am lucky. Our local Wallyworld refuses to sell guns, and except for shotgun shells has not had any ammo this year. So, I don't have to go through all that. If one has a CHL, they do not have to go through the background check thingie.

If ever in Corpus? try the WM on Staples and Gollihar--where I scored my two boxes of promo 555/22 rounds yesterday. That store as far as WM goes-is your best bet to get anything at--even if they are sold out most of the time. Also--try Academy Sports and Outdoors located on South Padre Island Drive--they are also you best source for ammo around here. Most of the time I get lucky there.

 

[Rastoff]

Because having box in store bought condition and if he decides to get rid of gun-and box goes with it--which makes it worth more as a whole-just like any other collectable or item one buys that comes in a box.

Try selling a matched pair of Colt presentation pistols without their box--still worth a mint--just not as much as it COULD be. Consider me one of those who want boxes in as best condition as possible. My STG-44/22 came in wooden crate-and crate came in cardboard box. All still together and in mint condition.

You know, I understand that having a pristine box to go with a collector gun can enhance the value a little. However, there isn't a single gun that Wal Mart has ever sold that falls into that category.

So, just out of curiosity, if I were to sell the $500 shotgun I got at Wal Mart, after I put a few thousand rounds through it, just how much more would would you pay me by having a pristine cardboard box?

For the record, I just bought a rifle today. The clerk had to get the box out of the back for the display model because that was the last one. The original box was bent and dinged a little. Should I have gotten a discount for that?

 

[diamonback68]

For the record, I just bought a rifle today. The clerk had to get the box out of the back for the display model because that was the last one. The original box was bent and dinged a little. Should I have gotten a discount for that?

Yes. You bought a floor model rifle that had been handled by untold dozens of wanna-be buyers that had done gosh knows what to and it was delivered to you in a bent up and dinged up box. You bet your life I would have asked for a discount.
Would you buy a demo car or a floor model refrigerator or stove at full retail? Not me without talking price. YMMV.

 

[Rastoff]

The gun itself was already on sale and had absolutely no marks on it. The action was good and no one had pulled the trigger but me. So, yeah, I could have asked for a discount, but I certainly wouldn't do that because of a card board box.

 

[pharmer]

Sounds like they may have a custom system for it. Makes sense given their scale. I'd want one of I was responsible for ATF compliance for all of Walmart.

After using it I think it is virtually impossible to make a mistake. The employee has a checklist to perform on his end. Before the customer submits responses there is a prompt to check your answers. I imagine if you mistakenly answer "yes" to "are you a fugitive from justice?" you'd be pretty well done, possible forever at WalMart. Don't know. Joe