I can see why the military is having a difficult time keeping people

[pantannojack]

Never trust a Govt Arm that is not ACCOUNTABLE.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

The military is not intended to be a social experiment. The services exist so that, when necessary, our nation can break things and hurt people expediently as a means of protecting our national interests.

I will stop now so that the Big Gorilla won't be tempted to slap me into the time out box.

 

[Beemerguy53]

...I grew up with a family that constantly bad mouthed any thought of government service, so I never considered it. They were completely wrong.

The average American has no idea of the caliber and quality of people the US Government employs. Yeah, yeah, I know, there are some people who live down to the worst stereotypes about government employees...but the vast majority of them are good people who work diligently for our country, often at salaries far lower than they could earn in the private sector (especially in the technical or scientific fields).

 

[Golddollar]

It’s always been messed up. When my father was discharged after returning from Korea in 1953 they gave him a train ticket to Plainview TX, rather than his home in Plainview MN. Even though he was processed in at FT. Snelling MN
.

Not always. They did manage to get my grandfather back to Punxsutawney, PA after World War I.

 

[STCM(SW)]

Glad I retired in '92.
Too much of a Gung Ho Master Chief in the Navy now.....

 

[IAM Rand]

Transportation to Home of Record is the way it's always been. The location was his choice at the time of enlistment. Home of Record can be changed whenever the member chooses. I've done it. He's had every opportunity to change his home of record throughout his career. Don't blame the government for his failure to understand the basics of the system. If he didn't figure it out, it's not about the needs of the one; it's about the needs of the service.

Granted, he could have changed his home of record and should have. Not sure if he knew about that. Unfortunately his out paperwork was sitting on his CO's desk for longer than it should have. To add insult to injury, on the day his is finishing his paperwork to get out, the housing dept wants to be at his residence. The problem is, all of his stuff is still there. Transportation hasn't gotten his stuff to send back to the states. Transportation can't get his stuff until he finishes his out processing. Round and round it goes.

By the way, he didn't choose his home of record, he was in Job Corp at the time and it was a local recruiter that got him into the Army. I would like to think that it was explained to him but, either it wasn't or he was drowned with information on the way in that he didn't think about it.

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

When I left Active Duty in June, 1971, I processed out at Fort Dix with a lot of other guys, my mother drove the 30 miles from home to pick me up.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Never trust a Govt Arm that is not ACCOUNTABLE.

NONE of them are accountable. You know what the difference between government and private industry is? I can sum up the mindset very simply.
In business you use the discounted extra ounce stamps to mail letters over 1 ounce. In government offices that is too much trouble so you just slap on an extra full price first oz stamp. First ounce .60 each additional ounce .24. IT ADDS UP

 

[biku324]

The average American has no idea of the caliber and quality of people the US Government employs. Yeah, yeah, I know, there are some people who live down to the worst stereotypes about government employees...but the vast majority of them are good people who work diligently for our country, often at salaries far lower than they could earn in the private sector (especially in the technical or scientific fields).

Affirmative.

I get really tired of whiny old folks pining about what used to be. The past is done. In the present, we should deal with what is and not denigrate our institutions - the military, juries, schools, civil servants, governmental systems (including state & local governments), even poll workers - those who make our capitalistic success, envied by the world, possible.

My guess is the current working generations will breathe a sigh of relief as we Boomers pass (sniveling) into history.

And I am a proud firearms Fudd.

 

[LVSteve]

It’s always been messed up. When my father was discharged after returning from Korea in 1953 they gave him a train ticket to Plainview TX, rather than his home in Plainview MN. Even though he was processed in at FT. Snelling MN.

The US has always had a blindspot for geography. Late wife#1 made me answer all the geography questions when watching Millionaire.

 

[biku324]

Ask friends about Dijibouti while they have no access to data.

 

[SMSgt]

Affirmative.
My guess is the current working generations will breathe a sigh of relief as we Boomers pass (sniveling) into history.

And then they will replace us and have to deal with the mess they've created for themselves.

 

[biku324]

And then they will replace us and have to deal with the mess they've created for themselves.

As each generation does.

 

[LVSteve]

I work on a military installation. I see the wokeness everyday.

The problem starts at the top. From the commander in chief to the the service member. It’s not just the young.

Officers and senior NCO’s are more-so guilty.

I’ve had officers and senior NCO’s look me in the eye and say……
“Whatever you need”
“I’m on it”
“We’ll get you squared away “
“I’m tracking that”

And I never hear from them again. A man can’t even keep his word. And I bothers me that a military man would do so.

I work with ten other veterans. We are all concerned about our ability to fight and protect. Very concerned.

Very smart buddy was ranting about "check the box" officers a while back. My buddy had been headhunted from retirement to deal with something that was not going to be fixed quickly. He gets well into the job and receives a missive that the project will be declared complete at a certain date. Turns out the assigned date would fit neatly with the departure of a certain senior officer so he could put "I did that" (HA!!!) on his resume. There was no way to complete the job properly, and the whole deal annoyed my buddy to the point he jacked it in saying, "I can't work with these idiots anymore".

 

[Geronimo Jim]

Something is very different now than in the past. Very anti-American
sentiment being taught in schools and many of younger people
are buying in. Never happened in the past.

 

[biku324]

Specifically, what anti-American is being taught in what schools? When?

 

[s&wchad]

Far too many banned topics have been touched on in this thread.

We're close to Christmas and I'm not up to dinging this many people. READ THE RULES and THINK before you post...

We're done here.

 

[handejector]

The military is not intended to be a social experiment. The services exist so that, when necessary, our nation can break things and hurt people expediently as a means of protecting our national interests.

Exactly.
The 'system' is the rock that egos and individuality are broken against. You won't change it and you won't beat it by whining. When you are thrown against the rock, figure out how to dig under, go around, or climb over. You'd be surprised how many clerks and NCOs are eager to show you how clever they are when you ask "How can I beat this?" Sometimes, you might want to do them a "favor".