I encountered some ignorance at the grocery store today!

[accessbob]

I thought of a number of things that I would like to have responded with but in the end I just held my tongue and moved on.

I don't know, I think this would have been a good one:

"Yep"


And on the clothing issue, I sometimes wear my fluorescent orange Savage Arms hat and sometimes my camouflage Savage Arms hat. Now, while it may be for some of them, I seriously doubt that most robbers are smart enough to associate a T-Shirt with that this person might be carrying. It would seem by most news accounts, and videos of actual incidents that I've seen, that they are too focused on the task at hand and nervous. If I am the focus of the crime and they have the drop on me and my SA has failed to get me ready, then they may note it. However, if I am just another person in the location where they are going to be doing their crime, they most likely are going to be more focused on looking around for incoming LEO's and anyone making quick, or furtive, movements regardless of clothing.

But that's just my opinion. I don't have stats to back it up, but it just seems to me the clothing is one of the last things the criminal is focused on.

 

[PA Reb]

Well, you were seeking attention when you selected that particular shirt to wear, weren't you?

If you choose to wear a Harley shirt, a political shirt, a concert shirt, any shirt or jacket with a logo, corporate, political or comedic-you are looking for attention. You expect people will read whatever, right?

So, just as you have an absolute right to wear these things and show the whole world you're a Smith guy (with a Kimber under the shirt-now how sincere was that message, really? ) those who read your ad, your political philosophy, your hobby or whatever you wanted them to see have the right to absolutely despise you for what you say, what you show or for no reason at all. Or, they can give you the thumbs up, a smile, or stop and chat.

Just like it was your choice to wear that particular shirt or hat or jacket, it's their choice whether to respond, and, if they choose to respond, whether to be supportive or hostile, or something in-between.

Although I relegate logo'd hats and shirts to the range, I absolutely support your right to wear them anywhere.

I just think you have no right to act surprised or express hurt feelings when your sought-after attention isn't the kind you expected. If I put on a T-shirt that is very unflattering about our current president, perhaps questioning his birth place, I should probably expect some hostile retorts from certain folks who see it, right?

So, if folks look at you like you have a big bugger sticking out of your right nostril, or like you really need to try a shower once in a while, it's only to be expected. Just like the hugs and kisses from others.

I mean you wanted folks to see/read them, didn't you?

Bob

B A L O N E Y !​

 

[straightshooter1]

Baloney, Reb?

Look, you (or whomever) picked whatever you wore, right?

Knew what the message or logo or ... was on it, right?

You liked it, right?

You knew others would read it, right?

You knew that others might agree with whatever was there, right?

And, in some cases, you kinda wanted to give a little dig to those who might not agree, right?

So, how can anyone complain when the attention they sought did not end up giving them the satisfaction they expected?

Like the OP-the old lady got the better of him, made her statement, left him standing there and walked away (maybe laughing to herself, maybe heading to her anti board to post how she handled some guy with his gunnie shirt) the winner of that little meeting.

Bob

 

[Badquaker]

If granny/anyone wants to make a social statement about what someone else wears, they should be prepared for a return shot.

I have grown weary of being in the silent majority, it's time for the conservatives to get loud.

 

[ol' geeser]

....amazing that she even recognised the logo

 

[xray97]

Well, obviously everyone has the right to their opinion and do as they please. I don't cover my vehicles with bumper stickers- I don't like the look, but I do have a couple on my vehicle that identify my past employment and opinion of the current U.S. administration. I don't wear gun or my past employment clothing often but when, and where, I choose to I do. If someone has issues with my past employment, my opinions, etc. tough.
I'm considerate of other's feelings and opinions and I expect the same. For me it's a matter of principle.
Should Christians hide their crosses, crucifixes, and religious necklaces because an atheist may take exception and verbally or otherwise accost them? Maybe remove the fish insignia on their car? Should I not use my motor home because someone may not think it is "green" enough or may think it is a sign of wealth and follow and rob me? Should I stop wearing my leather jacket because someone from PITA may take offense and try to give me a hard time? Should I take down my flag because some people find it offensive and may vandalize my house? Should I hide my x-mas tree and not put up outside decorations because it advertises probable gifts inside the house? Should we all trash our houses and drive beaters so no one will think we have something of value and victimize us? And on and on....
I have nothing to be ashamed of and refuse to live in fear. Like I said, just my opinion.

 

[blujax01]

Well, you were seeking attention when you selected that particular shirt to wear, weren't you?

If you choose to wear a Harley shirt, a political shirt, a concert shirt, any shirt or jacket with a logo, corporate, political or comedic-you are looking for attention. You expect people will read whatever, right?

So, just as you have an absolute right to wear these things and show the whole world you're a Smith guy (with a Kimber under the shirt-now how sincere was that message, really? ) those who read your ad, your political philosophy, your hobby or whatever you wanted them to see have the right to absolutely despise you for what you say, what you show or for no reason at all. Or, they can give you the thumbs up, a smile, or stop and chat.

Just like it was your choice to wear that particular shirt or hat or jacket, it's their choice whether to respond, and, if they choose to respond, whether to be supportive or hostile, or something in-between.

Although I relegate logo'd hats and shirts to the range, I absolutely support your right to wear them anywhere.

I just think you have no right to act surprised or express hurt feelings when your sought-after attention isn't the kind you expected. If I put on a T-shirt that is very unflattering about our current president, perhaps questioning his birth place, I should probably expect some hostile retorts from certain folks who see it, right?

So, if folks look at you like you have a big bugger sticking out of your right nostril, or like you really need to try a shower once in a while, it's only to be expected. Just like the hugs and kisses from others.

I mean you wanted folks to see/read them, didn't you?

Bob

A well thought out, logical, non-judgemental, intelligent observation.

 

[straightshooter1]

xray97 You are exactly right.

I don't hide my Christianity because some atheist might be offended or other things I am particularly attached to or outspoken about.

But, I'm not surprised or upset when someone doesn't want anything to do with me because I am a Christian or when someone refuses the tract I've offered or starts the "Why does God allow ...." (Which usually can be answered by "What's God got to do with it? It's men who do that kind of thing to their fellow men).

That's my point. If I offer a tract, leave it with my tip, wear a Christian shirt, etc., I am looking for someone to read that tract/shirt and react at least in their mind and make a decision.

No different if I pick a "I like the Smith-Wesson Forum 'cause they got the best guns" T-shirt to wear. I am expecting folks to read it and take some action. I hope they'll log in, join us, become staunch defenders of the 2nd Amendment. But, if they are already contributors to the Brady Bunch, I want to (1) have them maybe reassess their position and (2) if they don't, I want them to know where I stand.

See, just like you in your Smith sweatshirt, Kimber cap, or ..., I'm just looking for attention.

Bob

 

[Sprefix]

If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

Some crazy stuff here. I don't look for trouble, but I'm not hiding in the dark with my hobbies, interests, or likes. I think it has something to do with the first amendment that we all squeal about. It is my right to express myself freely. Folks, if you don't use it it will slowly diminish and be gone. Think of a leg or an arm that isn't used. It slowly shrivels and becomes useless. If you have the brass to enjoy the (?), then have the brass to stand up for it. No, I don't recommend advertising where you shouldn't, but don't be a sheep in public and then start snarling with your bad wolf self in the LGS. If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem. There is a difference in carrying for protection and acting like John Wayne because you are carrying. I'm not encouraging acting like a loud-mouthed moron, but KNOW YOUR RIGHTS and EXERCISE them with-in the means of the law. Posers are not allowed in my sandbox and I'm OK if I'm the only one in it. Maybe it isn't big enough for more than me. Standing up for what you believe can be very tough at times. Anyone that is willing to stand up for their gun rights has a place at my table and a warm place to hang your head. Those that want to bark about it in the right crowd can just motor their hybrid on down the road and find a place where you are welcome. Lord knows there are plenty of those "willing to accept you" people around. If this has stirred any emotion in you, then reflect upon yourself and make the stand that you can live with. I did! Be proud, be patriotic, and honor those that have fallen before you to maintain your rights to do so. Shoot safely and in good health.................

 

[Gaffer]

I could not help but notice that the initial thread poster was from midcoast Maine. That is where all the flatlanders from away seem to congregate. We should have blown up the Kittery bridge 40 years ago and all those Mass. wimps and Connecticut bed wetters from ever moving to Maine and spoiling what was once a perfect Yankee land.

It bugs me that such people come here and try to make it what they want to get away from.

 

[blujax01]

Okay so if I choose not to wear a Smith and Wesson shirt I am ashamed to be a gun owner?

How about this: I am not an evangelical. I am not a political activist.

If you are, then bully for you but quit bugging me.

What I think is quite frankly none of your business. And I really, really don't care what you think.

 

[ladder13]

Hot chicks dig my Lorcin tank top.

 

[wheelgun28]

I fixed it for you

Chicks with no teeth and addicted to meth dig my Lorcin wife beater shirt.



They would really fawn over you if you had a PBR one!!

Hot chicks dig my Lorcin tank top.

 

[ladder13]

I fixed it for you

Chicks with no teeth and addicted to meth dig my Lorcin wife beater shirt.

Yea, them too.

 

[wheelgun28]

The only problem with all this is that I (I bet most all of the folks here) were taught if you can say something nice dont say anything at all.

When I see some (loser) wear a Che Guevara shirt, I ignore them. I dont shoot off my mouth telling them how I really feel.

Dont like the image/saying/logo on my shirt, tough dont look at it. Give me the same respect I show others.

Its a strange world when folks give a thumbs up to a pot leaf or Che shirt but a gun maker logo is shunned.

Well, you were seeking attention when you selected that particular shirt to wear, weren't you?

If you choose to wear a Harley shirt, a political shirt, a concert shirt, any shirt or jacket with a logo, corporate, political or comedic-you are looking for attention. You expect people will read whatever, right?

So, just as you have an absolute right to wear these things and show the whole world you're a Smith guy (with a Kimber under the shirt-now how sincere was that message, really? ) those who read your ad, your political philosophy, your hobby or whatever you wanted them to see have the right to absolutely despise you for what you say, what you show or for no reason at all. Or, they can give you the thumbs up, a smile, or stop and chat.

Just like it was your choice to wear that particular shirt or hat or jacket, it's their choice whether to respond, and, if they choose to respond, whether to be supportive or hostile, or something in-between.

Although I relegate logo'd hats and shirts to the range, I absolutely support your right to wear them anywhere.

I just think you have no right to act surprised or express hurt feelings when your sought-after attention isn't the kind you expected. If I put on a T-shirt that is very unflattering about our current president, perhaps questioning his birth place, I should probably expect some hostile retorts from certain folks who see it, right?

So, if folks look at you like you have a big bugger sticking out of your right nostril, or like you really need to try a shower once in a while, it's only to be expected. Just like the hugs and kisses from others.

I mean you wanted folks to see/read them, didn't you?

Bob

 

[labworm]

Hot chicks dig my Lorcin tank top.

I always wear my "I Love New York Tee Shirt" when I'm at Fenway.

You know what I mean.

 

[straightshooter1]

Wheelgun28-you're right and, you're wrong. You and I and a bunch of the older folks here were taught that. We were also (probably) taught tolerance back when tolerance meant respecting others' viewpoints even when we disagreed.

But, the later generations don't seem to have learned that.

Not all, I hasten to say, as I have noticed that young, competitive shooters are about the politest kids I've ever met. There are lots of young shooters, both male and female, shooting trap and some of them are really good. Everyone I've met has been a real lady or gentleman.

Bob

 

[GTbob]

But in order to steal it they would have to get into my "personal" space....as I am wearing them on my waist! I have never really understood that statement!

Bob

that or any other ad touting a gun brand plastered on your vehicle.

that is like advertising there is something nice to steal inside.

 

[ladder13]

I always wear my "I Love New York Tee Shirt" when I'm at Fenway.

You know what I mean.

So which group beats you up, the EYErish or the EYEtalians?

 

[wheelgun28]

I'm sad to say I know exactly what you mean...

I call it the "occupy attitude" it consists of only things "I" want and like, everything else must be banned or made illegal. If you disagree we will call you names. ( you all know the names I need not say them)

Che shirts for all, by law yeah!!!!

Wheelgun28-you're right and, you're wrong. You and I and a bunch of the older folks here were taught that. We were also (probably) taught tolerance back when tolerance meant respecting others' viewpoints even when we disagreed.

But, the later generations don't seem to have learned that.

Not all, I hasten to say, as I have noticed that young, competitive shooters are about the politest kids I've ever met. There are lots of young shooters, both male and female, shooting trap and some of them are really good. Everyone I've met has been a real lady or gentleman.

Bob