doubletapp357
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can we get a dag gone 10mm metal frame smith and wesson please and thank you!
I guess the 40 is not dead
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I don't believe .40 will ever die. It is sad seeing how few offerings there are, especially with covid production(9mm, 9mm, 9mm, and more 9mm). I'm glad Smith is finally showing some support to their own cartridge, though. Anyone that says .40 is too snappy just hasn't fired the right gun. The m&p40 was the first .40 that I shot, and that turned me into a .40 guy. When fired out of a gun designed around .40, it's actually a pleasant round to shoot, even out of the shield.
TPD252
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Most of my recent pistol acquisitions have been in .40. I love the round, but I also love the flexibility of the chambering in that in most cases, you can have a 9mm and 357 Sig with the same gun. My 4” PC Shield in 40 also has accompanying barrels from Remsport in 9mm and 357 Sig. Eight rounds of HST in 357 Sig is nothing to sneeze at.
Model 15-4ever
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Because everyone knows that URBAN crooks are just skinnier...
Several years ago, when the FBI distanced themselves from the .40, our local auction house could hardly move them. I bought several Springfield Armory, Glock, Beretta, and FN pistols all NIB for less than $500 each out the door.
I carry the Springfield Armory XD Tactical 40 and an extra mag when I'm on the road.
I carry the Springfield Armory XD Tactical 40 and an extra mag when I'm on the road.
From what I see on the M&P Pistol section of this forum You might feel there are few buyers of compact or full size m&ps in general . Its all about the BG 380 lately both good and bad !
I have had a 40sw as a EDC since '90 and have a m&p 4.25 early model and a 2.0 5" performance center model too . Love um along with the underwood ammo when they loaded gold dot bullets
I'm 69 now and have a enough issues from 40 years as a carpenter and builder that I do have a couple 9mm's today . A 4" compact and a hellcat pro comp I getting use to also .
I have had a 40sw as a EDC since '90 and have a m&p 4.25 early model and a 2.0 5" performance center model too . Love um along with the underwood ammo when they loaded gold dot bullets
I'm 69 now and have a enough issues from 40 years as a carpenter and builder that I do have a couple 9mm's today . A 4" compact and a hellcat pro comp I getting use to also .
Throw all your guns away boys. I'm in the process of developing the Tom Bomb. It begins with a 10mm auto case necked down to 6.5mm and uses a compressed charge of 25.5 grains of Bullseye. We haven't gotten a muzzle velocity on it yet because the chronograph won't read that high, but we think it's in the 8,000 fps range. Another reason for not getting accurate muzzle velocity reading is the chrono can't distinguish between the bullet and the various gun pieces flying about. 
Testing is currently on hold as I have run out of 10mm pistols. If you would like to donate yours for partial credit in the development of this miracle round, please contact me.
Testing is currently on hold as I have run out of 10mm pistols. If you would like to donate yours for partial credit in the development of this miracle round, please contact me.
Never understood the .40. I guess LE and military didn't either.
The .40 hangs on as does the 45. Never going away unless people just stop buying the firearms and ammo becomes too expensive to buy.
The 45 had it's very own pistol for a very long time and loved by many, including the military. The .40, well, just never had that advantage and now an orphan cartridge. More of a solution to a problem that never existed. Marketing more than anything else.
But we have a lot of that these days just to sell firearms and ammo.
The .40 hangs on as does the 45. Never going away unless people just stop buying the firearms and ammo becomes too expensive to buy.
The 45 had it's very own pistol for a very long time and loved by many, including the military. The .40, well, just never had that advantage and now an orphan cartridge. More of a solution to a problem that never existed. Marketing more than anything else.
But we have a lot of that these days just to sell firearms and ammo.
LVSteve
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Better access to meth and crack, perhaps?
LVSteve
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Don't give them ideas! .
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I'd have gone with the 10 mm case and a sabot to hold the 6.5 bullet. Less messing with the brass.
I think the name '6.5 Pricey' would work.cd228
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To add a little more spice to the conversation. On one of the recent Primary and Secondary Podcasts Dr Gary Roberts pointed out that the 180gr .40 S&W actually did better in shootings then .357 magnum. The podcast in on youtube, but be warned, It's a long one.
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DonD
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You need to be more specific. A S&W 500 Magnum (i've been shooting them since 2003) last i noticed is a handgun and has roughly 9X the energy of most 9mm ammo. Of course it's a poor choice as a defensive handgun.
I agree with your comments regarding long guns etc. Don
Buy it up now, because that's probably LE contract overrun that got dumped on the open market. Next time, prices/availability may not be so good.
Also, it's arguably the best performing .40 S&W defensive load.
That’s what we (CBP) used to shoot…
Have like 500 rounds of it sitting in my office right now. I also have a few boxes of the 135 grain HST. I’m looking at a .40 braced AR pistol just so I have an excuse to shoot it. I have a P2000 (identical to my old duty gun) and a M&P40C, but rarely shoot them.
Everything else I own tends to be 9mm… which is what we shoot now (Speer G2 147 grain).
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I would build one from the CMMG Banshee bolt/barrel kit. I found a factory 40 S&W Banshee to be more pleasant to shoot than the straight blowback AR9s that I've shot.
Any word on lowers that work with it?
CMMG says they only test with their own lower. Zero issue building one, but don’t want to spend more than the CMMG pistol to get it functional.
I guess the potential risk here is that Glock mag lowers aren't standardized in the way that regular AR lowers are. I've only done the build with the 9mm kit.
I too would love to hear if you have more info on this. I bought a .40s&w complete upper from another manufacturer and no matter what I did i could not get it to run right. Long story on that one, but it's gone and I still have the lower for it. Cmmg reliability without the full cmmg cost would be fantastic. I would love another AR style PCC in .40s&w, but don't want to spend another $1400-$1700 to get it.
Miami_JBT
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Typical .40 S&W hater says the following:
.40 S&W is too snappy, but it is short and weak.
JHP tech has advanced to outclass the .40 S&W. And that tech is only applied to 9mm.
.40 S&W is a high-pressure cartridge at 35k PSI. .40 S&W still has more recoil and wrecks guns. I carry 9mm 124gr +P anyways, better cartridge. Wait, that's 38.5k PSI?
.40 S&W is too snappy, but it is short and weak.
JHP tech has advanced to outclass the .40 S&W. And that tech is only applied to 9mm.
.40 S&W is a high-pressure cartridge at 35k PSI. .40 S&W still has more recoil and wrecks guns. I carry 9mm 124gr +P anyways, better cartridge. Wait, that's 38.5k PSI?
