My wife isn't happy about me wanting to spend five hundred on a .22. So she made me compromise my want of a 15.22, for a Mossberg .22. Not too happy, but atleast I get a 15 style .22 I guess. I'm sorry guys, I know it's disheartening to hear someone going for the Mossberg knockoff, but what can I do, atheist I get a 15 style .22.
i have to compromise... :(
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Sebago Son
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Use your own money and do what you want. Terrible thing to live on your knees.
Shooterjgs
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Nah... bought one in a spur of the moment thing... week and a half later saw the 15-22 and traded it in on the 15-22..
Hey Hotroder... trade up like I did.... you won't regret it...
speedyquad
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i was in the same boat, ended up with the 715t carry handle junk. first time out it had major fail to feed issues. by the third mag, it was basically a single shot. i got excited if i got 3 rounds off in a row. sent it back, on mossberg's dime after fighting with them that they were paying to fix and ship it. while talking with them before sending it back, i mentioned how i could not get it sighted because it shot low, about 3" at 30 yrds low. the front sight is non adjustable and the rear needs raised to raise the point of impact. i had more adjustment on the sight, but the carry handle came into view and blocked the front sight from view all together. i asked if i could buy the flat top shell(it is basically the 702 model with just 2 pieces of plastic bolted on to it). they said no, not possible.
after waiting 3 weeks for a shipping label it went back. i also included a note stating all of my issues and the wish to buy the flat top shell, as well as the original mag and the extra i had purchased. they "fed exed" it to me exactly a week after the received it. i was told the replaced the trigger housing assembly. i opened up the box and there were 3 mags and a flat top shell on my gun.
i was happier than a pig in poo until i fired it. each mag would have a fail to eject at least 6 times out every 25 rounds. the original mag and the freebie were def. worse averaging 10-15 fte per loading.
i again contacted mossberg by email this time(working ot could not call them) and got a reply 5 days later. i replied back, with more questions. i have yet to receive a reply, and that was from october.
i sent the gun back again, they received it the day after thanksgiving and i got it back 2 weeks later. it seems to work well now, although i have only been able to get another 150 rounds through it since, but there has been no fail to feeds and only 3 fail to ejects.
i had plans to sell it and get the smith instead just because of the lifetime warranty as opposed to the remainder of the one year warranty on the mossy, but the wife has nixed that. after all of that, i am happy with the gun, it is fun to shoot, and pretty accurate. i could do it all over again, i would get the s&w.
my friend also has one...after a trip back to the factory to fix a cycling issue(fail to feed i believe), he has quite a few thousand rounds through it since last april...no issues now according to him.
after waiting 3 weeks for a shipping label it went back. i also included a note stating all of my issues and the wish to buy the flat top shell, as well as the original mag and the extra i had purchased. they "fed exed" it to me exactly a week after the received it. i was told the replaced the trigger housing assembly. i opened up the box and there were 3 mags and a flat top shell on my gun.
i was happier than a pig in poo until i fired it. each mag would have a fail to eject at least 6 times out every 25 rounds. the original mag and the freebie were def. worse averaging 10-15 fte per loading.
i again contacted mossberg by email this time(working ot could not call them) and got a reply 5 days later. i replied back, with more questions. i have yet to receive a reply, and that was from october.
i sent the gun back again, they received it the day after thanksgiving and i got it back 2 weeks later. it seems to work well now, although i have only been able to get another 150 rounds through it since, but there has been no fail to feeds and only 3 fail to ejects.
i had plans to sell it and get the smith instead just because of the lifetime warranty as opposed to the remainder of the one year warranty on the mossy, but the wife has nixed that. after all of that, i am happy with the gun, it is fun to shoot, and pretty accurate. i could do it all over again, i would get the s&w.
my friend also has one...after a trip back to the factory to fix a cycling issue(fail to feed i believe), he has quite a few thousand rounds through it since last april...no issues now according to him.
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TunaFisherman
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Time for a divorce 
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Don't worry, The marks from being whipped will heal.
And get the M&P 15-22 for sure
And get the M&P 15-22 for sure
eplacentia
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I have both. Bought te Mossy on a whim as a sort of compromise. Even though it was cheap and even though I ended up with the 15-22, I still regret buying the Mossy. Had I done the research, I would've seen how many people are having reliability issues and what a pain in the rear it is to strip it and clean it. I don't even think of it as being in the same class as the 15-22. I wish I still had that money so I could've bought ammo. For the same price I could've had over 5k rounds stored up right now. Don't buy the Mossy. Save. Beg, borrow, steal, trade, sell something. Whatever you gotta do to get a 15-22. It has no equal
I have a skewed way of looking at this I guess, but my logic is sound (to me). If the 15-22 is, let's say $525 and the Mossberg is $275, the the real cost of a 15-22 is $250, the difference between the two. The only way it isn't, is if you have an option for less than the $275.
Here's where I'm coming from---I live in the South, not as deep south as the Louisiana bayous, but it get hot and humid here. Last summer I had a friend complaining about an electric bill during the hottest part of the summer because it was $150 and his thermostat was set at a balmy 79 degrees. I asked why he didn't turn the temp down to a more comfortable level, he said it was because of the cost. But my house, which is actually just a bit larger and of similar construction was a comfortable 72 degrees and my electric bill was $185. He paid $150 to be miserable when for another $35 (or less) he could have been comfortable. By my way of thinking, my friend didn't save $35, he wasted $150. You can be miserable without A/C at all.
The moral of the story is this---save the money you were going to spend on a knock-off, combine it with the money you get from pawning your wife's engagement ring and buy the 15-22. :-D
Here's where I'm coming from---I live in the South, not as deep south as the Louisiana bayous, but it get hot and humid here. Last summer I had a friend complaining about an electric bill during the hottest part of the summer because it was $150 and his thermostat was set at a balmy 79 degrees. I asked why he didn't turn the temp down to a more comfortable level, he said it was because of the cost. But my house, which is actually just a bit larger and of similar construction was a comfortable 72 degrees and my electric bill was $185. He paid $150 to be miserable when for another $35 (or less) he could have been comfortable. By my way of thinking, my friend didn't save $35, he wasted $150. You can be miserable without A/C at all.
The moral of the story is this---save the money you were going to spend on a knock-off, combine it with the money you get from pawning your wife's engagement ring and buy the 15-22. :-D
sound wave
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personally, if i couldn't have gotten the 15-22, i would have gotten the ruger 10/22. the 10/22s are inexpensive, have a great reputation, a large aftermarket and can easily be customized to the user's preference. there are many tactical-style stocks available if you want to go that direction. it is really cool what you can do with them... if you get tired of one look, buy a different style stock and you have a whole new rifle. (i was going to go with the m1 carbine look) http://www.eabco.com/m1_carbine_ruger_1022_tribute.htm
i have never seen a mossberg in person, but from what i have heard about it, i wouldn't want one. it doesn't seem worth it just to be able to own a "15 style .22".... plus, somehow they just don't look right to me.
if i HAD to have a .22 AR other than my 15-22, i would buy a dedicated .22 upper and throw it on my AR lower.
my 2 cents of course.
sound wave
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a bit pricey, but red jacket even came out with a bullpup stock for the 10/22. not something to get right away, but like i was saying, if and when you get tired of the configuration you have, just swap out the stock and you have a completely different rifle.
Red Jacket Firearm's ZK-22 Full Production Version from Bullpup Shoot 2012 - YouTube
it really was a hard decision for me choosing between the 15-22 and 10/22. that being said, i really do love the 15-22. if there is any way you can talk your wife into letting you get the 15-22, i am quite confident you will love it.
Red Jacket Firearm's ZK-22 Full Production Version from Bullpup Shoot 2012 - YouTube
it really was a hard decision for me choosing between the 15-22 and 10/22. that being said, i really do love the 15-22. if there is any way you can talk your wife into letting you get the 15-22, i am quite confident you will love it.
Maddmax
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Don't have that trouble with my wife. We split ALL the bills first,then some goes into savings and we each get an allowance out of our own paycheck. OT is who ever earns it. So,what ever she wants she gets and same in return. NO questions asked or BS about what it is.
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I got my boy a 15/22 this summer.
I thought he would like it more that a 10/22 because it looked like the guns in his games.
When we went shooting with my friend and his son who has a 10/22 all of us enjoyed both guns equally.
I see the 10/22 as a very nice alternative.
I thought he would like it more that a 10/22 because it looked like the guns in his games.
When we went shooting with my friend and his son who has a 10/22 all of us enjoyed both guns equally.
I see the 10/22 as a very nice alternative.
beemerphile
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hand it over...
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Go with a Ruger 10/22. Much better than the Mossberg in my opinion. I think the basic 10/22 goes for about $219.00
LOL, it's time to hike up your britches, buy what you want, and to hell with the consequences.....Oh....You may pay dearly for it but at least she'll know your guns are your business.
It'll blow over right after you pay for that little something she wants! The way I figure it the gun will run you a thousand after you factor in her gift...
This is one of those marriage defining moments....a choose your battles indoctrination of sorts. Good Luck!! Keep us updated....that is if your wireless works from the (garage, basement, car etc.)
It'll blow over right after you pay for that little something she wants! The way I figure it the gun will run you a thousand after you factor in her gift...
This is one of those marriage defining moments....a choose your battles indoctrination of sorts. Good Luck!! Keep us updated....that is if your wireless works from the (garage, basement, car etc.)
Gunzilla
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Not every purchase in life should center around PRICE, it's so true about most any product you buy.
Quality and function should be your primary considerations.....wife, or no wife. Can you tell that I'm divorced? She was 'about 'cheap' and I was about 'quality'.....it was destined to fail!!!
This is about the time where you need some serious sales skills by pointing out that eventually the Mossberg will not suit your needs and it's better to buy right the first time than to be forced to upgrade later.....putting you deeper in the hole.
Good Luck!
BTW, next time she wants to buy a new pair of shoes tell her to consult with you before making her purchase....then wait for her objections....then point out that you should have some say in what pair she buys.........that should settle any future arguments about your choices.
Quality and function should be your primary considerations.....wife, or no wife. Can you tell that I'm divorced? She was 'about 'cheap' and I was about 'quality'.....it was destined to fail!!!
This is about the time where you need some serious sales skills by pointing out that eventually the Mossberg will not suit your needs and it's better to buy right the first time than to be forced to upgrade later.....putting you deeper in the hole.
Good Luck!
BTW, next time she wants to buy a new pair of shoes tell her to consult with you before making her purchase....then wait for her objections....then point out that you should have some say in what pair she buys.........that should settle any future arguments about your choices.
speedyquad
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all ribbing aside, why the whipping for having respect for his wife?
in our case, she just validated the points i already had in mind. those points are:
1. it's a .22, $500 for a .22 is ridiculous.
2. at the time i could have bought a real one for a few hundred more.
3. i was buying it for something cheap and fun to shoot. twice the price is not cheap.
4. i ordered it 2 weeks after our printshop laid off half of it's workforce. who knows how long i will have a job there and jobs are scarce on our area, with none being anywhere near what i earn.
#1 and #4 was the biggest deciding factors...
in our case, she just validated the points i already had in mind. those points are:
1. it's a .22, $500 for a .22 is ridiculous.
2. at the time i could have bought a real one for a few hundred more.
3. i was buying it for something cheap and fun to shoot. twice the price is not cheap.
4. i ordered it 2 weeks after our printshop laid off half of it's workforce. who knows how long i will have a job there and jobs are scarce on our area, with none being anywhere near what i earn.
#1 and #4 was the biggest deciding factors...
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ColbyBruce
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I have nothing but disdain for the Ruger 10/22. I have owned four, none would feed an entire magazine without some sort of failure. Of the four, the HB target version was the most accurate but it was basically a single shot rifle. I sold that gun to a friend who sent it off to CPC, some $600.00 later it is as reliable as a Marlin 60.
I bought my son a GSG5 semi auto when they first came out. It runs like a Singer sewing machine. It is accurate and reliable with all types of ammo.
I bought my son a GSG5 semi auto when they first came out. It runs like a Singer sewing machine. It is accurate and reliable with all types of ammo.
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