I just called the Wisconsin AG to figure out what 'school grounds' are.

[Fat B]

I taught law for many years in a high school and I've always prided myself as being informed of the law. My qualifications are limited as I am able to teach Law in Wisconsin with a Political Science minor and a Political Science teacher certification, not a law degree.

With that being said, I've shot several times with the high school police liason. (Police officer who serves at the school). Sometimes I would show up to the city police range with several weird firearms placed in a sock, all of which were placed in one zippered bag. And everytime I would ask him if I was being legal or not. Even he admitted he didn't think so... but he couldn't, even after doing a little bit of research, say that I was in direct violation of any law. We laughed about it.

I always got the feeling that if we weren't friendly and he really wanted to bust me with something, he could have.

My 2nd day teaching at this cental wisconsin school, I received a phone call from the secretary telling me to go and cover up my hunting rifle that was displayed in the rear hatch of my car. I 100% forgot it was in there as I had sighted it in the day before. If I had done the same thing in Madison, where I had done my student teaching, I would have probably made front page of the paper. "Student teacher brings gun to school". And almost everywhere else in Wisconsin, students bring their guns to school more than you think. At least into the parking lot, not into the school.

The law is very vague and it's just an example of what they can bust you for if they feel like.

 

[Lost Lake]

The sad part is the fact that it wasn't always this way. It seems all cultures move away from guns and taking care of yourself to a society of depending on the government to care for you in every conceivable way. Then the society declines.

I think it the parasitic draw on limited resources. People need to take care of themselves. From getting yourself to the library if the bus isn't running to making your way to work if the snow plow didn't plow your street. And yes, not rolling over and giving in to every street corner thug that wants your bicycle.

 

[22dec]

Quote" It is a crime to possess a dangerous weapon (other than a firearm or BB or
pellet gun) on or in any school building, school grounds, recreation area, athletic
field or any other property owned, used or operated for school administration.
Wis. Stat. § 948.61. /quote

Long Lake-Is there a definition of dangerous weapons? I carry pocket knife when I take my grand-daughter to pre school (in a public school). I consider it a tool, but I am sure there some who would be shocked at the "weapon" I carry. I am almost 68 years old and have been carrying a knife (tool) for at least sixty+ of those years.

Don

 

[Lost Lake]

Well you know 22dec, I just had a nice Buck knife removed from my possession at the Madison airport, and to me it wasn't a 'dangerous weapon'. It was a Christmas gift from my 9 year old son. Unfortunately I had no time to return it to my car and still make it back through security and catch my flight, so they 'threw it away'.

I would believe the definition of 'dangerous weapon' can be construed to include small knives, explosives, batons, sticks, stones, or anything else you could possibly hurt someone with, which means anything they find on you when they pin you against the wall. I think they leave the definition open for that very reason, so they can make a charge stick. Look at what inmates can make into dangerous weapons.

I don't know of a WI law describing the length of a blade to determine dangerosity. I know the knife cannot be spring opened by the push of a button or flicked open, but I think my Spiderco that has an assist hole in the blade is okay. Milwaukee used to have an ordinance prohibiting blades over 3", I'm not sure if that is still in effect.

So I will carry my pocket knife on school property and if I am caught stabbing someone with it I fully expect it will be considered a dangerous weapon. My Spiderco rides on a clip in my pocket and as such is partially exposed and may bring unwanted attention by an officer, but I hope not. It's just a pocket knife unless I'm causing trouble...

That may be the key! It's just a pocket knife until you cause trouble!

 

[RobertJ.]

1. Concealed means concealed.

2. Don't ask, don't tell.

If a situation arose in one of those restricted areas that made you wish you had carried anyway, I'd bet money you'd never let it happen again.