I need a good scale, recommendations please.

I have the Lyman. Mine is great. Not a single problem. If I had your problems, I would call Lyman. Don't wait until it is out of warranty or just sit around and complain.
Some things to watch for:
1) all balances need to be level
2) no balance should be on a workbench or exposed to vibrations of the press
3) electronic balances need to warm up for about 30 minutes
4) never store your balance-beam with the beam on the balance
5) Keep the balance-beam balance in a closed container
6) keep balances out of areas where aerosols are used
7) Never think that you can compare one balance to another and some how know which is accurate. You need class 2 check weights to verify a reloading balance. The calibration check weights are, at most, good for ±0.1gn and may be worse.
8) Never touch a check weight with your hand. Use soft-faced forceps or tweezers or clean cotton gloves. Keep check weights in box to prevent exposure to contaminated air, and, if possible, under desiccant.
9) Some electronic balances are not properly shielded and may be affected by line voltage variations or interference from electric motors or fluorescent lights with bad valances/transformers or flickering tubes.
Denver Instruments (used to be Ainsworth or they bought Ainsworth) makes great balances. I am still using the Ainsworth I bought when they first came out with an electronic balance for less the $600 (early '80s?).
You can also go whole hog and look at the Sartorius GCA2502 Milligram Balance or equivalent lab balance.
 
I would change the batteries like suggested above. If that doesn't work contact Lyman since it seems that scale is fairly new. They will probably want to make it right since you bought a Lyman reloading kit it was part of.

If you buy a scale I agree with a lot of the above posts, buy an RCBS/Ohaus 5-0-5 or a 10-10 if you can swing the price.
 
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Wish I had bought one of those "world's most powerful handguns" in .401 Powermag! It could drop a charging bull elephant in one shot--Jacque said so!
 
I have a Herters single stage brown press as well. You are right, the thing probably weighs 500 lbs.!!!:D

We need to start a Herters fan club!!

Yeah, there is no flex in that puppy, but the lack of mechanical advantage got tiring when doing lots of resizing on my larger cartridges, e.g., .338 Norma Mag.

A Herters fan club might be a hoot! I still have several Herters items around, including a crow call that sounds pretty good, and a plastic elk bugle that sounds like someone stepped on his nuts!
 
I have the Lyman. Mine is great. Not a single problem. If I had your problems, I would call Lyman. Don't wait until it is out of warranty or just sit around and complain.
Some things to watch for:
1) all balances need to be level
2) no balance should be on a workbench or exposed to vibrations of the press
3) electronic balances need to warm up for about 30 minutes
4) never store your balance-beam with the beam on the balance
5) Keep the balance-beam balance in a closed container
6) keep balances out of areas where aerosols are used
7) Never think that you can compare one balance to another and some how know which is accurate. You need class 2 check weights to verify a reloading balance. The calibration check weights are, at most, good for ±0.1gn and may be worse.
8) Never touch a check weight with your hand. Use soft-faced forceps or tweezers or clean cotton gloves. Keep check weights in box to prevent exposure to contaminated air, and, if possible, under desiccant.
9) Some electronic balances are not properly shielded and may be affected by line voltage variations or interference from electric motors or fluorescent lights with bad valances/transformers or flickering tubes.
Denver Instruments (used to be Ainsworth or they bought Ainsworth) makes great balances. I am still using the Ainsworth I bought when they first came out with an electronic balance for less the $600 (early '80s?).
You can also go whole hog and look at the Sartorius GCA2502 Milligram Balance or equivalent lab balance.

Dang. You just sucked the fun right out of reloading.:rolleyes:
 
Yeah, there is no flex in that puppy, but the lack of mechanical advantage got tiring when doing lots of resizing on my larger cartridges, e.g., .338 Norma Mag.

A Herters fan club might be a hoot! I still have several Herters items around, including a crow call that sounds pretty good, and a plastic elk bugle that sounds like someone stepped on his nuts!

I recently tossed some old "paint it yourself" fishing plugs from Herters and and old hunting knife my dad had since the '60s.
 
A good balance beam scale such as the 1010. Digital scales are more trouble than they are worth. Lights, AC coming on, all sorts of things affect them. A good balance beam has all the accuracy you need for reloading, is unaffected by stray electrons, and unless you drop in on the floor, will last two lifetimes and still be accurate.
 
I could join the Herter's Fan Club but only by accident.

Here is a funny story that some will appreciate. I have a friend that was going to get into reloading. He stopped at a garage sale and saw a couple of old presses mounted to a sturdy wood table with a bunch of other stuff for just over $40. He bought it, brought it home and called asking me to come on over an take a look see.

When I got there, both presses were old Herter's open frame design. Frankly, I had never seen any "up close and personal" but they looked in good shape and heavy duty. Well, he asked if I thought he had gotten a good deal @ $40. I said I thought so but would check on ebay to see what they had gone for in the recent past.

So, I go to ebay, put a Herter's press on "watch" only to have my account "hacked into" by my wife to see what I was wanting to buy! She won the auction and on Christmas Eve had my son go bring the big gift up from the basement. When I opened it I tried to look surprised, well I was surprised, even if it was something I really didn't need or want!

Kind of cute, but oh so true! :D
 
Mechanical balance beam scale.

The hell with electronics--it will always let you down, sooner or later.
 
I highly recommend a balance beam scale. It is really difficult to screw up a load with one. I've used the RCBS 505 for years.

A few weeks ago at Cabela's, I picked up their 1500gr electronic scale for ~ $80.00, took it home and set it up. It's a real nice looking package. It calibrated fine after a warmup, and I started comparing weights on it with my 505. Everything was within a tenth grain. All was well.

Then, I started playing with powder. I put scoop loads on the scale and compared them with the 505 with no problems. Then I started slowly trickling more powder into a load on the pan. The weight measurement did not increase! I found I could trickle scoop after scoop of powder onto it and never increase the weight indication if I did it very slowly. I could fill the whole pan with powder if trickled very slowly.

I took it back for a refund the next day and am perfectly happy with my 505 again.
 
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Just be sure that all your poise settings are correct (and you haven't worn or damaged any of the notches the poise goes into), that the bearing surface is clean, and the beam is straight. It is very easy to make a reading error with a beam and the mag- or oil-dampening also plays havoc with sensitivity.
I have had an electronic since Ainsworth first came out with one (late '70s maybe) and it, and my Lyman, and my RCBS electronic balances all work great for trickling. You can't judge a class by one member. The only balance that I have "lost" was an RCBS that got damaged during an interstate move.
Also, do not store the beam on the balance when you aren't using it and keep the whole unit under a cover when not in use so dirt, dust, and oils don't collect on it.
 
I recommend the Redding all cast iron, oil-puddle damping, no plastic, balance beam with machined razor edge pivot points scale, vintage 1963. Not available? Oh well, I'll keep mine - it is perfect.
 
My RCBS/Ohaus 5-10 has been serving me well for 30 years plus and has given me no reason to change. I place it on the bench where I need it, zero it, set the poises to the charge I want, and go.
 
Hello everyone, first post here and thought I'd chime in on my scale.

I'm currently using an RCBS Rangemaster 750 digital after using for many years the old stand-by RCBS 505. I prefer the digital because its faster for me and easier to read.

I should mention my first one went bad in 90 days but RCBS did replace it without any trouble.
 
i have 3 scales. 2 balance beams and a digital.

the first scale was a lyman balance beam. still have it. i hate it. it was cheap

the next was an RCBS and it works well, just that it was hard for me to use. my eye sight isn't all that good for seeing up close.:(

my last is an RCBS charge master combo. i LOVE it. have checked it against the RCBS balance beam and they're close. a nice thing about it is that if it breaks for about 50 bucks they'll give you a brand new one. but i've been told by people who had a problem that RCBS didn't charge anything and replaced it for free.

granted it's in a whole different price arena but if you can justify and afford it i'd reccommend giving it a try. but the RCBS balance beams are accurate.
 
I had another digital scale go bonkers on me. I dug out my 1010 scale that I bought in 1972, and still it works like a champ. It is slower to use than the digital but is dead accurate and consistent after all these years. Ohaus makes the 1010, but you can find them marketed under different names, RCBS is one. Dillon markets a good scale for $69.00.
 
i just can't see the beam very well anymore... :( but my rcbs has always seemed to be a good unit and i agree with you about it being accurate.
 
I have used a Redding manual balance for many years with satisfaction. I also have a Lyman digital, which is ok. I normally use it only when I am reloading a large quantity of rifle ammunition at one time, and I want to weigh every charge. I don't particularly like having to let it warm up for 30 minutes before use. Otherwise it seems to be consistent. You do need a set of calibration weights to check accuracy every so often. I made up my own set many years ago with the assistance of a chemical laboratory analytical balance capable of weighing to 0.1 milligrams. I made up a set of very exact weights - five of 10 grains each, and a couple each of 25 and 40 grain weights. But you can buy them.

When loading charges for handguns, I always throw 5 charges and take the average weight when I am setting up my powder measure dispenser, instead of throwing and weighing only one charge. I have found the Lee powder dippers are usually somewhat low, e.g., if you use a Lee dipper which is supposed to provide 42 grains, it will actually be closer to 40. That may be by design.
 
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