ID required to look at a gun?

I was in the Academy Store here and they ask me for my ID to look at a gun. I ask them why and they said to ensure that I was over 21 years of age. I ask them how old I looked and they said, "about 55 years old. I told them I was 63 years of age. I ask them if they still wanted my ID. They said yes. I told them that I would go some where else to buy my guns since they were so stupid that they couldn't tell if a person was over 21 yoa because I wouldn't be able to trust them to correctly complete the required paper work. I then told the Manager the same thing. I finished up with telling the store manager if that is Coperate Policy, that Stupid is as Stupid Does.

I left and haven't been back in since. Who knows, they might want an ID to sell a T-shirt or Socks.

I can shop other places where they don't play Stupid Games to win Stupid Prizes.

Rule 303
 
A shop owner friend won't even let you handle a handgun in his shop if 1- he doesn't know you , or 2- you do not have a valid LTCF. A valid state-issued LTCF usually guarentees that you are not prohibited from posessing firearms. Anyone with bad intent (felon) can walk in , ask to see a gun , pull ammo from his pocket and , , , ,
 
The only time someone carried a new gun to the door, they got to carry it to the truck, too.

Worked for me.

But I would have no problem showing my ID at a GS. (although most of them I go into say "Hi Jim".)
 
Rule 303 said:
I was in the Academy Store here and they ask me for my ID to look at a gun. I ask them why and they said to ensure that I was over 21 years of age.
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Hmmm...well, maybe that is store policy...but if it is, it is VERY inconsistently applied. I have been to the Academy Sports in Mesquite a lot, and to several other locations around the DFW area a few times, and yesterday was the first time I have ever been asked...and one clerk didn't ask me yesterday (but then, he has sold me a number of guns) only the second one did. It is not, as far as I have been able to determine, a Federal or Texas law.

And we don't want no steenkin' FOIDs down here...whatever they are...sounds like a disease. :p
 
Several years ago I ordered a shotgun at Wallyworld (when I lived in Illinausea), they called to tell me it was in as I was getting ready for work, so I stopped by to pick it up on my way. The manager came to the Sporting Goods counter to verify the paperwork was in order, then she took the box and escorted me the 100 yards or so to the front door, when she handed me the box, and wished me a nice day.

I was in full uniform, and wearing a pistol.

"There's no reason for it.......it's just our policy." ;)
 
I have been asked for ID a few times when looking at handguns. Not an issue with me.

However, there is a law in place now that requires a handgun to have a lock on it when it leaves the store. The purchaser can either furnish his own lock or buy one from the dealer. I now keep one in my vehicle for the times when I buy a gun unexpectedly, as we all have done.
 
Here in NY if you want to see a handgun you are supposed to show your pistol permit, although alot of places don't seem to know that for some reason.

A FOID? Is that something like the little guy with the big ears from the old Domino's pizza commercials?
 
The last time I was at the S&W Factory store while attending Armorer's School again (last summer), I had to show my CCW in order to handle any guns from inside the case. I thought that a bit strange at the time.......
 
I see comments, on other boards, where they call the store taking the gun to the entrance as "the walk of shame". I thought that was a pretty stupid statement, until four years ago when I bought a gun at Walmart.

Manager carried the boxed gun to the door. And it felt, for all the world, like I was being "escorted" out. Like I had been shoplifting, or fondled a clerk, or flashed a customer, or something like that. Not really bad enough to get the police involved, but bad enough they did not want me in the store, so the manager was "escorting me out".

I completely get "the walk of shame", now. I don't think I'll be buying another gun there.

As a comparison, in 1983 I bought a 10/22 at Kmart. Sporting Goods is at the very back of the store. I gave them money, they handed me the box, I tucked it under my arm and walked out. Just like it was a fishing rod, or a bowling ball, or any other normal item.

I miss the old days.
 
GKC said:
I told him that I knew you had to be 21 or older to BUY a handgun
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That is not true. Under federal law, you only have to be 18 to buy a handgun from a private individual. The only age-related restriction is that FFL holders can't SELL a handgun to someone under 21. That is a restriction on the FFL, not on the buyer.
 
With respect to handguns, the Youth Handgun Safety Act (93) put the general restriction on the possession of a handgun to any person under the age of 18. Also restricted anyone from providing a handgun to person(s) under the age of 18.

This applys to all persons,,not just FFL's selling firearms.
The law went further to clarify certain circumstances when it was permisable for a person under 18 y/o (juvenile) to possess a handgun and what steps must be followed to do so.
It's all here:
http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/i/atf-i-5300-2.pdf
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FFl's have a separate regulation to work under in that they are not permitted to sell (as an FFL) a handgun to any person less than 21 y/o. (18y/o for a long gun),,
The higher minimum age (Federal or imposed State) takes precedent)
From BATFE site:
Q: Does a customer have to be a certain age to buy firearms or ammunition from a licensee?
Yes. Under the GCA, long guns and long gun ammunition may be sold only to persons 18 years of age or older. Sales of handguns and ammunition for handguns are limited to persons 21 years of age and older. Although some State and local ordinances have lower age requirements, dealers are bound by the minimum age requirements established by the GCA. If State law or local ordinances establish a higher minimum age, the dealer must observe the higher age requirement.

[18 U.S.C. 922(b)(1), 27 CFR 478.99(b)]


An FFL cannot legally SELL a handgun to anyone under 21y/o. Asking for I/D to prove age of 21 or more may seem to be not so out of line.
..But asking a 60 y/o guy for I/D is also not going to make many new customers for you either.
I bet the female customers aren't asked for I/D as much.

If it's gov't mandated like the FOID card system,,different matter and the customer expects it.
A little common sense can go a long way in the retail business.
 
I actually don't know what a foid is but it reminded me of the W Texas cowboys on a bridge over a creek, one say this water is cold and the other says deep too and rocky on the bottom.
Blessings
 
FOID = Firearms Owners ID, It is bad enough living here in Illinois with all their goofy laws and such. Then forum members got to poke fun at you for living here and complying with the laws. The Shame of it all. Be glad you don't have a FOID!
 
I've had to show my permit at Gander Mt. to handle pistols.

I took a Colt SAA to a gun show to have the guy putting on the show give me an estimate. A kid at the door asked me to open the rug, he took the gun,asked me for my ID and filled out a form (with serial #, brand ect)which he tagged to the gun. when the appraiser was looking at the gun he sorta mumbled under his breath about the stupid tag, I said " I told him C&R, and I didnt need the tag" he agreed and said the kid was doing what he was told.
 
A couple of times over the past year or so I've witnesses a gun store employee ask a younger looking person for his/her driver's license before showing them handguns.

-Off topic, however I REALLY hate trying to by Sudafed at Walmart. Not only do they scan your driver's license into the computer, they make you sign an electronic statement asserting the product is for your own personal use. Also, a couple local six pack shops now scan your driver's license every time you buy beer and they keep a record of your purchases.:(
 
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