Illinois rules at Indiana "Rural King" stores

[sceva]

Illinois is bad but it's not that bad YET. What you descrige at Rural King is Store Policy not Illinois law.

I am about 40 miles from Chicago but thankfully NOT in Cook County. At the local shop you show a valid FOID card when entering ( they only look to verify it's not expired) then you can ask to see and / or handle anything. If you want yo try an action you may ( under the eye of the salesperson of course)

 

[00Buck2]

Bloodythumb, was this in Martinsville? Just curious because I do purchase some ammo at Martinsville when it is on sale.

I haven't made it to the new Bloomington store recently but about 3 weeks ago one of the sales employees there indicated they were planning on selling firearms.

No doubt its store policy, no state law in Indiana that would require any type of ID to "look" at a firearm.

 

[BearBio]

Since Il. law doesn't pertain to you, you might want to have your chapter of the BBB and complain.
I highly doubt they want that kind of attention, especially since Illionis rules don't apply in Indiana! Dale

Not relevant at all. It's store policy that they are following. Store can set their policy. BBB will respond with "and....?"

 

[arjay]

If they are holding your drivers license,you are less likely to bolt for the door with one of their guns.It happens.

 

[H Richard]

hsguy is correct. Many business's in IL, especially if from Chicago area have many "store rules". In downstate IL we usually have a much more relaxed experience. I will relate that when I visit in Colorado and go shooting in a local range/gunshop they hold your drivers license while you are shooting in the range. Just one of their rules.

 

[WuzzFuzz]

Store rules are sort of like coming to my house....You will wipe your feet before coming in...You're welcome to come, but it's my house and my rules.. If you don't wish to visit...that's ok too...

If you're just coming for a drink of water and rest for a spell....Well, as I said, my house and my rules. I understand there is a neighbor down the road that may be more accommodating. But please don't ostracize me for the way I am with my house rules.

How's that for a comparison?



WuzzFuzz


I better add, your information was received Bloodythumb. Thanks for informing us of their rules before I go to their place to visit.

 

[bobermo]

I agree that it's their store and they can set the policy....providing it is within the law. I would have some real concerns with them making a copy of my license just to look at a firearm. What happens to the copy? Where is it stored and for how long? How is your information kept secure? How is it destroyed? This seems like a huge privacy issue that just might violate Indiana state privacy laws if your information is not secured and destroyed properly.

 

[HLG]

Rural King gun policy

I don't know about other Rural King Stores in the area, but the one in Martinsville DOES NOT copy customer's driver license. When they give a customer a gun to look at they put the license in the spot where they removed the gun from so they can keep tract of who has what gun. When I asked why they did that the sales clerk said "We are an unarmed gun store, so if someone takes off with the gun, we have their license".

 

[doublesharp]

Here is Rural King's response to an email I sent the owner this morning about this thread. I edited the spelling in case of wierdos:

Dave,

My name is Jeremy Mxxxxx and I am a VP in the purchasing department at Rural King and oversee our gun sales and policies. Alex forwarded me a message that you had sent to him regarding a post made on a Smith and Wesson Forum by a customer of ours. First thank you for sending this on to us, all feedback is great and helps us improve and make the shopping experience better for our customers. The customers post is correct that we do have trigger locks on all of our guns and we also keep them locked behind a counter. This is not to give the impression that anyone is a criminal but to simply help keep everyone safe while shopping in our stores. We understand that this may cause issues for some but we hope they can oversee that, with the prices, service and hours of operation that Rural King offers. This customer also mentions that they gave us their drivers' license and we made a copy of it before allowing them to handle the gun. I am going to be following up with our stores to make sure they understand our policy on this but what we ask for is to just look at the drivers' license to verify who they are but we do not do any coping of this or filing of it.



Dave again thank you for the information and I hope my short response to you helps you better understand our process and I will also be trying to make contact with the customer that made the posting on the web to clear things up and with our stores to make sure they are all on the same page and operating correctly.

If you ever have a question or a concern please feel free to email or call me at anytime. My contact information is below.



Have a great day.



Thanks,



Jeremy Mxxxxxx

Rural King Support

Vice President of Purchasing

 

[WuzzFuzz]

Kudo's to you doublesharp, for going the extra mile straightening this out.

Extra thanks for posting Mr. Mxxx's reply.


WuzzFuzz

 

[LVSteve]

Living in "free" state I don't put up with BS that creeps across certain borders. This has made me VERY unpopular at car dealerships when I look at the Monroney sticker and say "I am not taking one with California SULEV emissions". I had one vehicle so equipped and it had no part throttle response in hot weather and once it was broken in I found it had a distinct delay built into the ECU that stopped it fuelling up when you dropped the hammer on it. NEVER again.

 

[erick1987]

there is a rural king near me. I love it. the only thing they ask for when I look at firearms is my foid card. no copies and nothing else.

 

[doublesharp]

Kudo's to you doublesharp, for going the extra mile straightening this out.

Extra thanks for posting Mr. Mxxx's reply.


WuzzFuzz

OP probably shopped around Bloomington where the tree huggin pinkos are.

As i said before, Rural King is a great store. They are an authorized Stihl dealer/repair center as well as Husqvarna, they carry Amsoil synthetic oil on the shelf in about 5 varieties. they've got live chicks in the aisles for sale, they welcome your dogs into the store, you can buy 1 bolt and 1 nut if you want - pick til you win @ $1.49lb. you need 7 ft of rope or chain - measure it, cut it and pay for it. And they do all this in a K mart that set vacant for a couple years and it's local people drawing a much needed paycheck. And I'm pretty sure the only day the store closes is Christmas. Opens at 7am and closes at 10pm during the week and a little shorter hours on Sunday. Hard workers.

I'm thankful to have a store like this 5 miles from home and I want to see them have as much success as possible. The way the owner dealt with this little problem shows that they are business minded.

It's hard enough to survive in the business climate of today and when I see a business that I know to be well managed maligned, I want to hear their side of the story. Retail is tough enough without distortion.

 

[00Buck2]

Good job doublesharp straight from the horses mouth.

I stopped by the Bloomington store today just because I had seen this post yesterday and needed some chicken scratch.

Employee behind the counter said he had not heard of a policy requiring him to take a photo copy of a persons ID if they wanted to look at a firearm. He did tell me that he will ask for ID if he suspected someone was under 18, for long guns, or 21, for pistols, if they wanted to look and handle one. He did confirmed, according to store policy, to never take a trigger lock off of a firearm for a customer.

It's their store, merchandise, property and policy. No one has to purchase a firearm from Rural King. Rural King can refuse to show and or sale any firearm to anyone at anytime, if they feel the need to do so.

I actually thought they had a pretty nice assortment. The employee even offered to get out any firearm for me to inspect if I wanted. I was kinda excited they also revamped their entire hunting section as well, big selection of stands, blinds, hunting gear and accessories.

There is more than corn in Indiana, at Rural King.

 

[Comrad]

I've done online business with Rural King and they treated me well.

 

[model70hunter]

A Rural King opened in Wentzville, MO. They started with ammo, fishing and hunting gear. They added guns last winter. A co-worker bought a Sig 400/M4? and it had a RK rebate, the rebate allowed him to add 60 bucks to buy a 10-22.

They ask to see your DL and do have guns locked. My wife and I went there for fathers Day to look around.
She ended up buying a Ruger LCP.

We've bought quite a few items there since they opened.

I will say that their prices seem to be good and every time we are there the are busy and have added more help in the gun dept.

One never sees crowds like this at my favorite LGS......

 

[JayFramer]

We in Il are ruled by anti-gun democrats out of chicago. What more do you expect? Believe me we hate it more than you do. Sadly many chain type stores enforce such silly rules as this , but our Il. State Police are the ones enforcing this type of made up rules.

Alas, I'm from IL too. I sure wish Chicago would just break off and float into the lake. I live in South Western Illinois and this part of the state is quite conservative and friendly towards the 2nd amendment.

 

[Badkarma 1]

Not relevant at all. It's store policy that they are following. Store can set their policy. BBB will respond with "and....?"

Fine, then why can't the Indiana store have a different policy from the home office in Illinois?
The BBB could ask why they need to have Illinois rules in an Indiana store. Store policies can be changed. Dale