Go read the labels on the "food'' you have in your cupboards.
Na, none of that stuff could cause problems. Its all "approved".
Na, none of that stuff could cause problems. Its all "approved".
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Inflammatory foods that trigger your arthritis?
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crankyoldlady
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They didn't eat GMO grains laced with Roundup.
Guinness will trigger gout in my toes
LOL, how much do you really know about what GMO really means?
For centuries grain and other food stocks were cross-bred and cross-pollinated in an effort to reinforce desirable genetic traits that increased yields.
GMO is just a way of accomplishing the same thing, in a lab, at a more accelerated pace. GMO technology has done more to prevent starvation in the last 50 years than all other agricultural efforts and developments in the last 500 years. In the 1960's the predictions were that we'd all be starving to death by now. But we aren't. Why? GMO crops.
Personally, I'm of the opinion that having enough food - through genetically modifying plants - is a FAR better alternative than allowing millions to starve to death because traditionally developed strains of crops don't produce enough food. Do they give some percentage of the population a "rumbly tummy" - or some other health or digestive issues? Probably. But is that better, or WORSE than starvation for the masses?
As for the Roundup issue, don't get me started. Herbicides like Roundup don't produce gluten intolerance. Though it has been shown that they can produce CANCERS, like non-Hodgekins Lymphoma.
My dad worked for Monsanto as a production foreman for nearly 30 years, and for several of those years he ran the department that produced most of the world-wide supply of Lasso. Just to connect the dots for the non-farmers reading this, Lasso is the commercial-grade / agricultural-grade version of Roundup. On a side note, dad ended up having non-Hodgekins Lymphoma - and he beat it. But I digress...
Exposure to Lasso/Roundup hasn't been shown to have anything whatsoever to do with gluten intolerance. If the lawyers could have connected gluten intolerance issues to Roundup, it would have been included in the lawsuits - because being "gluten intolerant" is such a popular claim, it would have dramatically increased the number of people included in the class action lawsuit. More people included in the lawsuit = a bigger settlement = a bigger paycheck for the lawyers bringing the suit. But it wasn't even mentioned in the lawsuits. Why? Because the two things aren't in any way connected.
Herbicides like Roundup (and Lasso) are carcinogens - which means they cause cancer. That has nothing whatsoever to do with gluten intolerance or gluten sensitivity. So don't try to make some bogus claim to connect the two, just because the Roundup lawsuit is so well-publicized.
They are entirely separate and unrelated issues.
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Really? You think so? So all of the food safety regulations we have in place just produce poison? Really?
Are the fast food and pre-prepared junk food diets of so many Americans the most healthy choices? Obviously not. But are they really POISON?!?
That seems like a bit of over-the-top hyperbole to me. There seem to be a lot of us Americans who are getting pretty fat eating this so-called "poison".
Just a bit of historical perspective. Until modern times most people lived hand-to-mouth, never knowing where their next meal was coming from. In many parts of the world that is still the case even today.
For those people, what you are calling "poison" would look like a banquet.
You definitely have a first-world perspective on this issue.
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Just curious, but how many meals have you missed in your lifetime? I know I haven't missed many - at least not because food was unavailable.
What percentage of people around the world do you think can say the same thing? 50%? Maybe? Probably less?
And of those who have enough to eat, how many can say that all of the food they ate was inspected for quality and safety the way that your food, and my food has been? Not very many I'll bet.
Is our system perfect? Nope. Is our food supply 100% pristine and untainted? Nope. Is there room for improvement? Certainly! But is it better than the starvation some people around the world face? I would say so.
Like I said, you definitely have a first-world perspective on this question. It is so much easier to be so critical when you are surrounded by such abundance.
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I just do my best to feed myself and my family food God intended for us to eat. I can’t grow, raise or kill 100% of it yet but I’m always working towards that end.
We eat real food that we produce, preserve and store. What we can’t raise kill or produce we buy local. Short short supply chain. It’s a way of life.
It’s a good way of life.
We eat real food that we produce, preserve and store. What we can’t raise kill or produce we buy local. Short short supply chain. It’s a way of life.
It’s a good way of life.
Consider yourself lucky. Most people don't have the option to do the same. In a country of 330 million (give or take), I think we are doing pretty well at feeding our people. We can still do better, but we're doing pretty good. As I see it a lot of that is due to our use of technology to produce more food with less land and less labor.
Having spent every summer on my grandfather's farm, and seeing that farming is such a hard way to earn a living, I understand why we have to do whatever it takes to boost crop yields to keep everyone fed. Farming is tough - it isn't for everyone, and it takes a special kind of person to stick with it. Most people don't have what it takes.
JMO.
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Not lucky. Blessed.
If people would spend the same amount of time, energy and money growing food instead of Bermuda grass we’d all be better off. Like I said it’s a way of life. Grow your food, even if just some of it. See the cow eat the cow. Short supply chain.
God bless.
If people would spend the same amount of time, energy and money growing food instead of Bermuda grass we’d all be better off. Like I said it’s a way of life. Grow your food, even if just some of it. See the cow eat the cow. Short supply chain.
God bless.
That works - in Oklahoma, with lots of good farm land.
But in many places around the country, what you suggest isn't even an option. For the person born and raised in NYC, Boston, Chicago, St. Louis, Los Angeles, Seattle, etc. your lifestyle is not only foreign, it simply isn't feasible. They couldn't do it if they tried.
We can't all go back to the agri-economy of the 1800's. That just isn't possible in today's world.
Like I said, consider yourself lucky - or blessed. Either way you have something that isn't really accessible to the masses in today's world.
Mass-produced food is the best they can do - and it isn't "poison". Less healthy than home-grown food, sure, but still not poison.
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Donna K
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It's been a good discussion, lots of input.
I feel bad we've strayed so far from actually helping the OP.
I would like to reiterate, in case it got lost in the discussion, that both oxalates and carbohydrates are a very common causes of joint pain.
The research is there to look at.
Best of luck finding an answer
I feel bad we've strayed so far from actually helping the OP.
I would like to reiterate, in case it got lost in the discussion, that both oxalates and carbohydrates are a very common causes of joint pain.
The research is there to look at.
Best of luck finding an answer
It's been a good discussion, lots of input.
I feel bad we've strayed so far from actually helping the OP.
I would like to reiterate, in case it got lost in the discussion, that both oxalates and carbohydrates are a very common causes of joint pain.
The research is there to look at.
Best of luck finding an answer
Yeah, threads drift. It happens. Just like a room full of people sitting around talking. They all start out in the same conversation, but pretty soon there are a dozen different conversations going on - and some of them have nothing to do with the original topic.
That's how it is with people - what can you do?!?
FWIW, I have never found that any particular foods affect my arthritis or any of my other minor health issues one way or another. With the possible exception of some foods giving me gas.
But I've been really fortunate, I guess.
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