Bigtom1982
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Info needed on super rare American Express model 645 factory engraved
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Putting a price on a "one of kind" is nearly impossible unless one similar to it exists and has been recently sold. It's pretty much whatever someone is willing to pay.
What makes you sure it is factory engraved? Do you have a letter from the factory authenticating the engraving? Also, what are the stocks made from? If ivory, do you have verification they were imported before the ban? If not, selling might be an issue.
What makes you sure it is factory engraved? Do you have a letter from the factory authenticating the engraving? Also, what are the stocks made from? If ivory, do you have verification they were imported before the ban? If not, selling might be an issue.
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Would the factory engrave that? Isn't it someone else's trademark? I would be skeptical that it is factory
Nice-looking gun! Don't forget to put some blue Loctite on the Phillips-head screw in the right-side safety lever.
Lonestar57
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Maybe at one time they were just concerned about being a successful U.S. business and remaining politically neutral on stuff like that. I can't imagine that stance today though......
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First, welcome to the S&W Forum. From your posting, you seem to be more sure of the gun's provenance than anyone who has seen it here, and I have to admit I've never seen anything like it. Perhaps you can provide us with a bit more of the gun's history and documentation? If you need definitive documentation beyond what you currently have, a factory letter is the gold standard of identification.
As far as pricing. That would definitely be what the market would bring. All you need is an auction and two enthusiastic bidders with deep pockets and you can find its value
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Green Frog
As far as pricing. That would definitely be what the market would bring. All you need is an auction and two enthusiastic bidders with deep pockets and you can find its value
Regards,
Green Frog
It looks like beautiful engraving and could very well be factory as this American Express Platinum could have been a special order. A factory letter authenticating it would be money well spent. as far as price, what the others said.
Its a beautiful engraving, but with the branding, I think it may actually hurt its value. A buyer would really have to want a gun with Amex on the side. A former employee maybe?
If it's "one of one" that's how rare it is. But rare doesn't automatically translate into desirable like so many folks always assume. Interesting piece
Is it signed R Smith as the engraver? I know one engraver who used to hide his initials in his work. I'd imagine if there was a R. Smith engraver someone here will know.
Those pictures look to be the same as those in the OP's.
Masterpiece
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Revoman,
I believe if you look a bit closer...You'll see that it's signed (K) Smith not (R) Smith!!
Russel/Russ, (RJ,) Smith was a S&W Factory Master Engraver from 1955 to 1984. It looks like a "K" not a "R" though. His engraved signature and or engraved initials seem to be a different style.
American Express Platinum Cards started in 1984.
645 production run was 1985-1988.
American Express Platinum Cards started in 1984.
645 production run was 1985-1988.
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A letter of authenticity from the SWHF would verify it is factory engraved, but I cannot recall any in the modern era using a copyrighted logo without a license from that company, and doing this as a one-off from the factory would have been financially impossible.
Wonder if OP will be back? I can't imagine this is necessarily good news considering what he sounded like he hoped for.
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