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[Airborne423]

I own a Beretta 950 .25 caliber auto pistol. This is the problem. The recoil spring which is affixed to the slide is now going out of alignment when i take this pistol apart for cleaning.
When i start to take the gun apart by removing the top slide, the one side of the recoil spring goes out of alignment and strikes up against the one plastic grip on the right side with enough force to eventually crack the grip. For some unknown reason this just started to happen. So now when i take this pistol apart i take the 2 grips off first, and then the top slide.
The pistol still fires without any malfunctions, does anyone out there who might own this same pistol have the same problem. I am just afraid that it would be possible for me to have a malfunction because the recoil spring is going out of alignment and could eventually cause a malfunction if and when i needed to use it in a self defense situation. This pistol is only carried by me once in a while. I normally carry the s&w model 37. I called Beretta about the recoil spring problem, and they were no help at all. Beretta does not make this .25, 950 jet fire pistol anymore.

 

[PALADIN85020]

I am just afraid that it would be possible for me to have a malfunction because the recoil spring is going out of alignment and could eventually cause a malfunction if and when i needed to use it in a self defense situation.

Let me see if I get this right. You are going to use a .25 ACP pistol for self defense?

Not prudent at all, no matter if it's 100% reliable. A J-frame .38 Special would be your minimum effective armament. Totally reliable, caliber large enough to do some damage. Nothing to remember; no safety to take off, no need to verify if the mag is loaded and there is one in the chamber. Just aim it and pull the damn trigger.

As Jeff Cooper once said, If you shoot someone with a .25 and he finds out about it, he might get angry and do you harm...

John

 

[4506517]

In attempt to actually answer your question and not admonish you for your choice of pistol.......

I have a 950 Jetfire in .25 ACP. Mine does not have the problem yours exhibits. I would try a Beretta forum. It would be a pain to try and find replacement grips for an out of production pistol.

Great little pistol, lots of fun to shoot. Good luck on getting it fixed.

 

[Andyd]

I have shot falling plates with my Beretta 950 BS for fun and that little gun with its nine shots is accurate and reliable. There are still parts available and I would either bend the toe of the spring back or get a replacement spring.

Beretta 950 Jetfire Parts & Schematic | Numrich

Beretta 950 Jetfire Parts

 

[Pisgah]

As Jeff Cooper once said, If you shoot someone with a .25 and he finds out about it, he might get angry and do you harm...

John

Jeff said a lot of stuff. I conducted a correspondence with him over a period of several years. In my files I have a letter from Col. Cooper in which he states, "A good .25 or .22 pocket auto has a place in the battery of every armed man. A tiny bullet to a tear duct is no joke."

You see, he well knew that it is the man, and not necessarily the tool, that determines the outcome of any armed encounter.

 

[murphydog]

It sounds as though a trip to the gunsmith is in order. Usually a pistol's recoil spring is contained in a channel or housed in a guide rod and your gun's may have been displaced from its normal location, or the spring itself is broken. Parts are still available for it even if the gun is no longer being made.

Edit to add - viewed an online video of the disassembly procedure for this gun, and the recoil spring ends seem to be two points that insert directly into holes drilled into the lower slide. The video did not get to the point of spring removal/replacement but I suspect it is not a difficult task. Good luck.

 

[Airborne423]

Back to you John

Like i said John, i only carry my .25 auto pistol "once in a while" I know that if i actually had to shoot someone with the .25, there could be a problem with taking him out. The .25 is very light, and easy to carry too. Of course, in a bad situation I would rather have my S&W Model 37 with me.
I am thinking about sending my .25 Beretta to Midwest Gun Works in Mo. Any one have any comments about Midwest?
Thank you all for the replys.

 

[4506517]

I don't have any experience with Midwest Gun Works. My first choice would be to send it back to Beretta and see what they can do with it. Either way, I think it is a good choice to send it to a gunsmith to diagnose/fix the problem.

Good luck, hope they can fix it. The Jetfire is a fun little pistol to shoot.

 

[Alk8944]

If you have previously been successful dis-assembling aand re-assembling your Beretta Jetfire there is no reason to take it to a gunsmith to replace the recoil spring. Just by a replacement from Numrich and change it. Andyd gave you a link to Numrich's page for your gun.

 

[Jimmyjones]

I own 3 950's 2 BS and a B, it's the grip scale that holds the recoil spring in position. I just removed the slide, everything's still cool. I removed the scale, cool. Put the scale back on ***, the spring is out of position.

Took it back off and noticed a triangle feature on the inside of the scale that the spring rides around. I have to rotate the scale from ~ 4:00 to 6:00 (left scale) to get it to engage the spring. Same issue on the right, just 8:00 back to 6:00, I also held the spring back slightly and that made it easier to align.

This could be related to your issue, I'd check the scale for cracks and proper alignment with the spring.

 

[Texas Star]

Jeff said a lot of stuff. I conducted a correspondence with him over a period of several years. In my files I have a letter from Col. Cooper in which he states, "A good .25 or .22 pocket auto has a place in the battery of every armed man. A tiny bullet to a tear duct is no joke."

You see, he well knew that it is the man, and not necessarily the tool, that determines the outcome of any armed encounter.

Sometimes it's the woman. Aline, Countess of Romanones,was an OSS agent in WW II. She was issued a .25 Beretta in Madrid, and used it to kill a gypsy who attacked her with a knife.

The gun was probably a Model 418. The 950 wasn't made until 1950.

You could call the Beretta Gallery in Dallas. They used to have a factory trained gunsmith. He was trained in Brescia, not in Maryland.

 

[alwslate]

OP It's a bit hard to understand your problem or if you even have a
problem. The recoil spring is not affixed to the slide. It is retained in the
frame by a cross pin and the upper ends ride in cut outs in the slide to
control it. When removing the slide it is easy to pull the spring ends back
and let them snap forward if you're not careful which can crack the grips.
There is no need to remove the slide for routine cleaning. You may have
bent one end of the spring out slightly by frequently removing the slide
and grips but I doubt your gun will malfunction. Try shooting a few
rounds to check function and stop taking it apart.

 

[Airborne423]

Alwstate,you are not familiar with the Beretta 950

Alwstate, yes the recoil spring is affixed to the slide on the Beretta 950 .25 pistol.

 

[Airborne423]

oop's message was for alwslate and not alwstate

Message was for alwslate and not alwstate.

 

[alwslate]

Alwstate, yes the recoil spring is affixed to the slide on the Beretta 950 .25 pistol.

Not familiar with the Beretta 950 pistol? Actually I have four 950
Berettas. Two each in .22 Short and .25 ACP. If the recoil spring
is attached to the slide how is it that the spring remains in the
frame when the slide is removed? The loop of the recoil spring,
if properly installed, is in front of the cross pin at the bottom of
the trigger guard and retained in the frame by it. The ends of the
spring just ride in the recesses in the slide to return it into
battery after a shot is fired.

 

[Airborne423]

Hello again Alwslate, sorry, you misunderstood me. the right and the left long parts of the recoil spring fit into the slide when the pistol is being put together. When you go to take the gun apart, according to directions, take off the top slide first, and the 2 prongs of the recoil spring will then set on top of the ridges one part of the long spring prongs on each side of the metal frame. On my gun now, the right prong does not stay on the ridge in place, and bangs into the right plastic grip.

 

[murphydog]

It sounds as though the right prong was somehow bent and not aligning properly.

Here is a link to a new (reproduction) part.

Recoil & Barrel Latch Spring, New Reproduction | Gun Parts Corp.

 

[alwslate]

Hello again Alwslate, sorry, you misunderstood me. the right and the left long parts of the recoil spring fit into the slide when the pistol is being put together. When you go to take the gun apart, according to directions, take off the top slide first, and the 2 prongs of the recoil spring will then set on top of the ridges one part of the long spring prongs on each side of the metal frame. On my gun now, the right prong does not stay on the ridge in place, and bangs into the right plastic grip.

I really think this is pretty common and not a serious problem.
Both grips on one of my .25s have cracks that I have super
glued. This is not going to cause a malfunction because the
spring is held in place by the slide when firing. If it worries
you take the spring out and just squeeze the arms back
together a little bit. The best solution is just to stop removing
the slide for cleaning. It's not necessary.

 

[Airborne423]

Thank You All

Thank you all for the information, and Best Regards.

 

[Airborne423]

No Recoil Spring Available

None of the gun companies have a new or used recoil spring available for the Beretta 950 Jetfire pistol. Shame on Beretta too.
I will never purchase another Beretta firearm.