INLAND 30 CALIBER CARBINE

[DWalt]

I have never shot anything living with this load, but I think that a .30 Carbine using ammunition loaded with the .30 100 grain half-jacket Hornady or Speer bullets would make an extremely lethal combination.

 

[HARDWARE]

as mentioned earlier and it bears repeating, jim cirillo on the NYPD stake-out squad noted that the M1 carbine was the most effective weapon they utilized and they were involved in many shootings.

 

[zeke]

Remington's 110 jsp is reportedly good at expanding, if your carbine will feed them. Hand loaded Hornady fmj's have easily given me best accuracy of the bullets tried.

 

[TeamPB]

I have fallen in love (yes, love) with GI wood over the past six months. The passing decades have turned these quaint old relics into examples of industrial art. Their fragility compared to a Garand is very real, but their ability to easily and quickly put multiple rounds on target at 100 yards is still very impressive. My two month old fairly correct Standard Products:

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

My last carbine tale.......Back in the early 60's my Dad got a carbine from the DCM for $12.50. He got some FMJ ammo and sallyed forth to shoot buzzards that were annoying his cousins hogs in a wooded pen. Every buzzard he shot flew away. He said poo on this and sold his carbine!

 

[crankyoldlady]

When I pick up an M1 Carbine my heart goes pitty-pat. There isn't an AR on the planet that has, or ever will have, the same panache.

 

[DWalt]

"My last carbine tale.......Back in the early 60's my Dad got a carbine from the DCM for $12.50. He got some FMJ ammo and sallyed forth to shoot buzzards that were annoying his cousins hogs in a wooded pen."

Had he hit them, they would be dead. I guess back at that time they were not a protected species as they are today. I think killing a Buzzard will get you a $15K fine if you are caught at it.

 

[spad124]

If an AR is so great, how come there are so many aftermarket parts? I guess it was too difficult to just make it right the first time....

Actually I think the first ARs were made "right"- 20" barrel, fixed stock, windage adjustable only rear sight, triangular hand guard. Pretty basic, not much to get bumped around-much like the M1 Carbine. And the A1 weighs about what the M1 Carbine weighs. Not all "improvements" provide real value.

I have a Blue Sky 1943 Inland mixmaster with its original 8/43 inland barrel for comparison. It's fun and easy to shoot. As old as she is, she functions 100% and still gives good combat accuracy. For the M1's intended purpose- an easier to shoot defensive light rifle to replace the 1911- it more than meets the goal. It's just too bad no manufacturer today makes a comparable carbine shooting a hot pistol round for a reasonable price.

 

[DWalt]

" It's just too bad no manufacturer today makes a comparable carbine shooting a hot pistol round for a reasonable price."

Probably not today, but I remember reading that some custom gunsmiths were doing carbine conversions to handgun calibers some years ago. What calibers I do not know. And of course there were several .22 wildcat cartridges based on necking down the .30 Carbine case, along with modified carbines to shoot them. I remember the most popular was the 5.7mm MMJ. I once saw one of those converted .22 MMJ carbines.

 

[Cocked & Locked]

I'm 74 YO...this Inland was made one month before I was born. It is in better shape than I am, looks better than I do, and its moving parts work better than mine.

This pic below is my grandson a few years back (16 now) with his very own Rock Ola.

I find these carbines a pleasure to carry and shoot

 

[MichiganScott]

I have carbines made by nine out of the ten manufacturers. The I-P has always been out of my price range. I also have accumulated a bunch of Garands and actually collect correct HRA's. I feel that the M1 Garand was the last rifle generally issued to our troops that you could become emotionally involved with.

The rifle I keep under the bed to protect my family and home is a box stock M&P15 with a dot sight. The personal animosity aimed at JayFramer is all too common on other forums and below the usual level of discussion experienced on this one. We all have opinions and should treat other posters with respect even if we disagree with them.

 

[DWalt]

There are several good books on the carbine, one of which is "War Baby" which as I remember has two volumes. The NRA once published a fairly comprehensive manual about the M1 Carbine. I have one of those manuals somewhere but I have not seen it in some years. There was also the military technical manual on the M1 Carbine (TM9-1276, 2/1953) which is very worthwhile if you ever plan to do any Carbine gunsmithing. I have an original copy, but reprints are readily available.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

"My last carbine tale.......Back in the early 60's my Dad got a carbine from the DCM for $12.50. He got some FMJ ammo and sallyed forth to shoot buzzards that were annoying his cousins hogs in a wooded pen."

Had he hit them, they would be dead. I guess back at that time they were not a protected species as they are today. I think killing a Buzzard will get you a $15K fine if you are caught at it.

He was hitting them. That fmj bullet just punched a small hole and they flew away. I reckon to die somewhere else.

 

[Bill Lear]

Jim Cirillo wrote that the 110 grain soft point was great at one shot stops. They were firing them out of cut down carbines IIRC. The truth that those who have killed things come to find out is that certain bullets at a certain velocity are highly effective. The case can be made for most any caliber. When you find the right bullet and drive it just fast enough magic happens. Folks are trying to go too fast, too far with too many bullets. Just take one and drive it well and you're going to end up with meat on the ground.

To supersonic (incompressible) air flow, a round nose pistol bullet is very little different than a semi-wadcutter in terms of shock profile. This is why pistol bullets fired above supersonic speed slow down so quickly into the transonic range. This translates to a quite large expansion channel ALL the way through a medium depending on impact speed.

 

[SF VET]

I have a DCM '44 Inland, no doubt rebuilt after the war, is what is sometimes referred to as a "transitional" Carbine, ie, no Bayonet lug, push safety, has the adjustable rear sight. I reload for it, and it is just perfect in "handling." I imagine as a close combat defensive rifle, it would be easier to handle and use indoors than a AR style rifle. NV

 

[sigp220.45]

Watchdog vs Jayframer - battle of the banned!

 

[JohnRippert]

Picked up a late Inland from the CMP during the time period they were selling the Italian returns. IIRC, I paid $475 for it.

 

[.357magger]

Mine is a Standard Products from 1944. Went through the obvious post war rebuilding and is 100% GI parts. It does retain its Underwood barrel, which is correct for a 1944 SP Carbine. Pretty nice condition too if I do say so myself. No import marks, I figure it lived in the back of someone's closet before I got it.

Runs like a scalded dog and capable of better than minute of head accuracy at 100 yards. Hard to imagine needing more than that in any realistic scenario.

Perhaps my favorite rifle. Certainly much more so than my M4GERY.

 

[DWalt]

I took my 14-YO grandson out yesterday for his first session with my M1 Carbine (Quality Hardware with Inland barrel). I let him fire about 200 rounds at paper targets at 50 yards from the bench, he kept most hits in the black. He wanted to shoot more, but that was all the ammo I brought. I did let him fire a few .300 Savage rounds through one of my Remington M81s, but he decided that was more recoil than he could take. In fact, an M81 in .300 produces more recoil than most can take for more than a few shots.