Interesting new Jeep in the works

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Reports that Jeep is working on a new concept has caught my eye. It is still a couple of years out with a projected introduction to the auto market in 2020 (edit: should be 2022), but I think the concept is intriguing.

According to the report, the vehicle will be approximately 13 feet long, which will make it about a foot shorter than a two-door Wrangler, but still two feet longer than a World War II Willys MB.

I'd like to see one painted in OD green.


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Perfect for the lake...... SxS RZR's are nice and now legal on many rural (twp) roads in Pa...... but have been thinking a basic street legal jeep would be a nice utility vehicle.
 
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I see a replay of the turn-over times of the CJ-5 days. If they intend to make it electric, that removes all consideration. Maybe the design guys at Jeep need to spend some time with real Jeep users. I'll still put my faith on the CJ-7, and leave the new stuff to the folks that have never left a paved surface.
 
Reports that Jeep is working on a new concept has caught my eye. It is still a couple of years out with a projected introduction to the auto market in 2020, but I think the concept is intriguing.

If I haven't had too much holiday cheer, I'm thinking 2020 is a little less than 2 years away...
 
Isn't it kind of "bigfooted"?

Maybe too much for my taste.:rolleyes:

Too much "Bigfoot" for my tastes too, but definitely a move in the right direction.

Again and again, American car manufacturers get a great idea (Corvette, Thunderbird, Jeep, etc,) and then make it bigger, heavier, and more accessorized until it is a bug tub of lard. It would be nice to see Jeep reverse what they have done for the past 10 years or so.
 
2022? If their projections are anything like Ford with the new Bronco, maybe 2032.
 
I like the old school tractor style wheels but I'd swear the body panels look like plastic?

Plastic? Plastic? You mean like less weight and no rust plastic? What would be wrong with that?

I remember see one piece AFTERMARKET front ends on old Land Cruisers in the 80's (probably Fiberglass), they reduced the weight by 100's of pounds. I think 400lbs!

In the prototype days, they were after the GP to be 800 pounds or under, and never made it that low even with an Aluminum skin. They might now with a polymer or fiberglass body. They won't hold up well bumping into trees! But that only happens in the woods & less than 10% of Jeeps ever see a trail these days!

As to the CJ-5 rollover problems, I was driving from Columbus, Ohio to Clarksburg, W Va. in the summer of 1975 on US 33, Every few miles (in W.Va.) was an AMC/Jeep Dealership, in every lot was one or two rolled Jeeps! I stopped and looked inside 3 or 4, to see if they had any of the basic off-roading equipment. Nope they were all showroom stock, driven by "wannabees" who never thought about how to turn 90% going downhill on a 30% grade! And most likely took is at 35 or 40 MPH!!!...I never saw any sign of fatalities, but the insurance companies were screaming bloody murder! And because of that stupid stuff, we ended up with the CJ-8, a Jeep looking vehicle whit the wheel base of a Cherokee! VERY, VERY, VERY stable, but turns like an 18 wheeler! I drove a 74 K-5 Blazer (also the same wheelbase as a Cherokee, but 1.5" better ground clearance with the same tires) and I got around fine! I understood how to drive off road!

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I'll stick with my TJ too, only posting a shot so I can update it soon after my new wheels and tires go on! Hopefully this coming weekend as long as the tires come in. My 17x8.5 Vision one-piece aluminum wheels and BF Goodrich KO-2, 285/70/R17 raised white lettering going on. I'll update ASAP.
 

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Too much "Bigfoot" for my tastes too...
Too "Bigfoot"? As in the tires are too big?

For a pavement pounder, maybe, but not for offroad they aren't. For stock those look decent, but for serious offroad, most people would end up going even bigger. Now if it's just for on-pavement driving, then maybe they're a little big. But why buy a Jeep if it's not leaving the pavement? Any little SUV will do for snowy pavement duty.

I still say I want one of the diesel Mahindras. In areas where side-by-sides are legal on the road, one of those babies would be AWESOME!
 
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Too "Bigfoot"? As in the tires are too big?

For a pavement pounder, maybe, but not for offroad they aren't. For stock those look decent, but for serious offroad, most people would end up going even bigger. Now if it's just for on-pavement driving, then maybe they're a little big. But why buy a Jeep if it's not leaving the pavement? Any little SUV will do for snowy pavement duty.

I still say I want one of the diesel Mahindras. In areas where side-by-sides are legal on the road, one of those babies would be AWESOME!

As in tires are too big and the body is too high over them.

This thing could go almost anywhere(and it went:D) using an anemic 60 hp flathead four. And it sure is not bigfooted.

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As in tires are too big and the body is too high over them.

This thing could go almost anywhere(and it went:D) using an anemic 60 hp flathead four. And it sure is not bigfooted.

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Yeah, that maybe went anywhere the WWII GIs were interested in going. But I guarantee you that with those little wheels & tires and limited suspension it can't go the places I take my 1996 Jeep Cherokee in Moab Utah at the Easter Jeep Safari.
I've seen them try...
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None of these are pictures of my Jeep, but they are comparable builds and mine has been over all these obstacles - and more - on 5" of lift and 33" tires.

And BTW, the Cherokee is considered one of the LEAST capable of modern Jeeps - but that little stock WWII flat fender wouldn't even come close to keeping up in these kind of serious offroading environments...
 
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Tires? There is no perfect tire for both on-road and off-road...
if you want a tire that's great on-road, you must give up it's off-road capability... the same is true if you want great off-road tires.

You want to have some real fun! Put a 6"+ lift kit in a CJ5 and add some 15X38.5X15 tires... take a trip down the highway at 50mph+... it will swap lanes without even moving the steering wheel! If you slam on the breaks running over 50mph on wet pavement, you may enter a world you didn't know was possible! But, it may be great off road?

A Jeep needs to match what conditions you drive the most!
 
Tires? There is no perfect tire for both on-road and off-road...
if you want a tire that's great on-road, you must give up it's off-road capability... the same is true if you want great off-road tires.

You want to have some real fun! Put a 6"+ lift kit in a CJ5 and add some 15X38.5X15 tires... take a trip down the highway at 50mph+... it will swap lanes without even moving the steering wheel! If you slam on the breaks running over 50mph on wet pavement, you may enter a world you didn't know was possible! But, it may be great off road?

A Jeep needs to match what conditions you drive the most!

Absolutely. FWIW the ones on the new red Jeep above look like they're about 33" - which is a pretty good compromise. I'm sure they are capable of good on-road manners or they wouldn't be factory. They also look just big enough and aggressive enough for some pretty good offroad duty.
 

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