interesting open carry option seen today
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HOUSTON RICK
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rburg
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Well, I disagree with some of what has been said. If'n yer workin' outdoors and common sense suggests a firearm, you take one. Carryin' a long gun ties up one hand and tires you out over a day. Havin' a sidearm on yer hip makes a lot more sense if yer adoin' actual work. I know, the police types define work as standin' around in a group, BS'n. I mean actually pick'n stuff up and movin' it around, or hammerin' on things, etc. No, you can use yer sidearm as the hammer. It doesn't fit my style. I see nothin' wrong with a farmer or rancher with a gun on his hip. It makes a lot more sense than havin' it concealed under his dress jacket when the temps are above 90, or 100. Do as you please, but don't leave out common sense.
When I was young and even more stupid, there was this little party my daddy threw out in the hay field. He called it "hay'n" and his trusty little revolver was on his side. Plainly visible to anyone within maybe 100 feet. I shore would like to see you disarm'n experts walk up to him and take that thing away. I kind of think you'd better have an excuse fer bein' in his field and approachin' us. Even if we were in the barn and you appeard out of now where, you'd be what we'd call a trusspasser, and he'd be thinkin' about usin' the revolver on you before you could get very close.
Back when huntin' bunnies and tree rats seemed like a good idea, I'd often haul a 22 pistol on my side. Not sure why, just seemed to make some sense to me. I've even shot a few stupid tree rats with it. Back in those days, concealed was forbidden. Hardly anyone but our huntin' party saw us. Course if we got done and headed into town, we'd put all the guns, including the rifles, shotguns, and handguns in the trunk. Anyone with any sense at all figured we had guns, but why else would be be dressed with canvas clothes and have a big ole license pinned to our backs?
To me, that was open carry. Part of what they say is true. If yer up to no good, shoot the guy with an exposed gun first. But that's done with city slickers. I did have an exposed handgun one time. In a bank no less. On payday I'd rush home. If I came through the door yell'n, old spot my dalmatian would run in circles and bounce of the walls. He knew darn good and well what was up. So I'd change clothes or at least shoes and get him all roped up. Then with my carry piece under a jacket, and my paycheck in my pocket, we'd head out. From the house, it was at least 2 miles. A guy doin' a forced march can cover that in about 30 to 40 minutes. So we went into the bank and got in the slaughter line. We'd move up a step or two, and I'd tell him to sit. He knew the drill. And when he did, I'd pet him and tell him he was a good-boy. We knew the tellers and the guard. On this one day, I'd bent down a few times and petted my pooch. That day the guard walked over and very quietly said "your carry piece is showing". So I straightened out my jacket and we went on through the like without other incident. I'd guess no one cared one hoot. The tellers even had suckers for the kids and milk bones for the various dogs that came along. Nice friendly place it was. Let that cover concealed carry in a bank and unplanned exposure. If'n you're not tryin' to make a fuss, no one cares.
When I was young and even more stupid, there was this little party my daddy threw out in the hay field. He called it "hay'n" and his trusty little revolver was on his side. Plainly visible to anyone within maybe 100 feet. I shore would like to see you disarm'n experts walk up to him and take that thing away. I kind of think you'd better have an excuse fer bein' in his field and approachin' us. Even if we were in the barn and you appeard out of now where, you'd be what we'd call a trusspasser, and he'd be thinkin' about usin' the revolver on you before you could get very close.
Back when huntin' bunnies and tree rats seemed like a good idea, I'd often haul a 22 pistol on my side. Not sure why, just seemed to make some sense to me. I've even shot a few stupid tree rats with it. Back in those days, concealed was forbidden. Hardly anyone but our huntin' party saw us. Course if we got done and headed into town, we'd put all the guns, including the rifles, shotguns, and handguns in the trunk. Anyone with any sense at all figured we had guns, but why else would be be dressed with canvas clothes and have a big ole license pinned to our backs?
To me, that was open carry. Part of what they say is true. If yer up to no good, shoot the guy with an exposed gun first. But that's done with city slickers. I did have an exposed handgun one time. In a bank no less. On payday I'd rush home. If I came through the door yell'n, old spot my dalmatian would run in circles and bounce of the walls. He knew darn good and well what was up. So I'd change clothes or at least shoes and get him all roped up. Then with my carry piece under a jacket, and my paycheck in my pocket, we'd head out. From the house, it was at least 2 miles. A guy doin' a forced march can cover that in about 30 to 40 minutes. So we went into the bank and got in the slaughter line. We'd move up a step or two, and I'd tell him to sit. He knew the drill. And when he did, I'd pet him and tell him he was a good-boy. We knew the tellers and the guard. On this one day, I'd bent down a few times and petted my pooch. That day the guard walked over and very quietly said "your carry piece is showing". So I straightened out my jacket and we went on through the like without other incident. I'd guess no one cared one hoot. The tellers even had suckers for the kids and milk bones for the various dogs that came along. Nice friendly place it was. Let that cover concealed carry in a bank and unplanned exposure. If'n you're not tryin' to make a fuss, no one cares.
cbore
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My state has had conceal carry for years an then came back and pasted an open carry law. The state (MS) constitution already allowed it but the proponents stated it "cleared the issue for enforcement"
Me personal I never open carry unless working on my farm or during hunting season. I think those people referened give all of use a bad image
Me personal I never open carry unless working on my farm or during hunting season. I think those people referened give all of use a bad image
susieqz
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open carry is legal in new mex with no permit.
i'm about the only one around here who does, n that's just during snake season.
most people just carry in their car, as concealed in a car is legal with no permit.
open is still a novelty in texas, so people are making a big deal of it.
here, it's always been legal so most don't bother with it.
i'm about the only one around here who does, n that's just during snake season.
most people just carry in their car, as concealed in a car is legal with no permit.
open is still a novelty in texas, so people are making a big deal of it.
here, it's always been legal so most don't bother with it.
Check google for a list of defenders. I counted Tenn 22, Ky 17, Texas 13. Those 13 Texans had a couple of hundred of people from all over the world helping them. Larry
He probably jest got one head light as well........
And a washing machine on his porch
Before all our Texan brothers get all upset. Yes the Alamo defenders died as Texans.But they came from everwhere.Tennessee is rightly proud of our sons who went to Texas .They went not just to the Alamo,but all over Texas.Sam Houston "Please remove your hats"learned his fighting skills under Andy Jackson as a Tennessean and he certainly showed Santa Ana a thing or two.Tennessee and Texas have always had a special relationship.Let us all be proud of it. I apologize for the thread drift.
There are so many facets to this issue it's hard to address them all in one post. I personally choose not to opencarry but support the rights of those who choose to do so.
I don't think it makes other people nervous because most of the time they don't even seem aware of it. I know this doesn't count as data but every time I point out an open carrier to my wife she isn't even aware until I do.
Sure there are idiots that open carry and I fully support taking their right to do so based on their specific behavior if they do something stupid while open carrying but I don't want to see the majority punished for the actions of a few.
Does open carry make you a target? Sure it does sometimes but sometimes just being there makes you a target.
All in all unless you can show me statistically significant numbers of open carriers being robbed for their guns or causing legitimate public disturbances I'm going to come down on the side of personal freedom
There really is no such thing as compromise with an anti. If they ever succeed in banning open carry they will focus all their resources on concealed carry They will not rest until no private citizen had the right to bear arms
Listen, and understand! That Grabber is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely.will.not .stop. until you are disarmed
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I don't think it makes other people nervous because most of the time they don't even seem aware of it. I know this doesn't count as data but every time I point out an open carrier to my wife she isn't even aware until I do.
Sure there are idiots that open carry and I fully support taking their right to do so based on their specific behavior if they do something stupid while open carrying but I don't want to see the majority punished for the actions of a few.
Does open carry make you a target? Sure it does sometimes but sometimes just being there makes you a target.
All in all unless you can show me statistically significant numbers of open carriers being robbed for their guns or causing legitimate public disturbances I'm going to come down on the side of personal freedom
There really is no such thing as compromise with an anti. If they ever succeed in banning open carry they will focus all their resources on concealed carry They will not rest until no private citizen had the right to bear arms
Listen, and understand! That Grabber is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely.will.not .stop. until you are disarmed
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Now it's interesting, I went up to my hunting buddy's cabin to help him build a shed for his equipment and 4 wheelers.
I open carried the whole time while I was there and no one cares.
But we were in the boondocks next to a National Forest.
In the city, I don't do it.
I open carried the whole time while I was there and no one cares.
But we were in the boondocks next to a National Forest.
In the city, I don't do it.
It doesn't matter to me where someone else carries their gun. Their gun, their business.
I'm only concerned with mine.
As far as giving a "bad name" by open carrying, unless said person is being foolish or careless doing so, the "bad name" problem lies within the head of the person that thinks so.
Just my take on it.
I'm only concerned with mine.
As far as giving a "bad name" by open carrying, unless said person is being foolish or careless doing so, the "bad name" problem lies within the head of the person that thinks so.
Just my take on it.
Zebadiah
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David Crockett was an open carry advocate forever. Ditto on being a neighbor of his descendants. Crockett County is named for him.
PS: Walt Disney named him Davey; there is no known instance of his being called Davey prior to Disney, but we West Tennesseans all knew that.
CQB27
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I think you might have taken my comment a bit too seriously. I don't think DC was the only person there (or the only Tennessean), and to your point, that's why I said "might". It was all in jest.
CQB27
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TexasArmed
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I thought Open carry would make me no difference before it was passed.
I always carry concealed except at home, or inside my vehicle. With all
the new refugees coming in and criminal illegals i decided that i need to
be able to draw faster especially from inside my vehicle. I also decided
that i needed more than just two revolvers so now a revolver is backup
and my Glock 45 cal is primary. Now i am thinking about maybe getting
one more Glock 45 so i would have twins.
I always carry concealed except at home, or inside my vehicle. With all
the new refugees coming in and criminal illegals i decided that i need to
be able to draw faster especially from inside my vehicle. I also decided
that i needed more than just two revolvers so now a revolver is backup
and my Glock 45 cal is primary. Now i am thinking about maybe getting
one more Glock 45 so i would have twins.
I see from reading this thread I must be the only person that conceals when working around the homestead and wandering the woods and fields. I either use a shoulder holster under my shirt or my shirt tail out over a belt holster. It keeps a lot of dirt and trash out of my gun and holster and especially when running a chain saw. Larry
AZretired
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You're right. I spent my LE career in NM and prior to CCW being passed in 2004 (?), while open carry was legal per State law some cities had laws against it so it was often confusing to people. When Albuquerque passed an ordinance denying CCW it was challenged and the State Supreme Court finally ruled that State Law Preempted all local laws.
Don't know if open carry is any more common but as late as the early 90's when my daughters were in high school it was still quite common to see rifles and shotguns in pickup racks parked in the HS parking lot.
DevilDog72
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and....
In jest it was taken.
Texas was just beginning and we all know their were exceptional patriots from all over that helped her defeat Mexico and become the Great State of Texas.
... no offence was taken nor directed on the flip side.
In jest it was taken.
Texas was just beginning and we all know their were exceptional patriots from all over that helped her defeat Mexico and become the Great State of Texas.
... no offence was taken nor directed on the flip side.
Doug M.
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It is not a Tennessee thing, or anti-2nd Amendment thing. It is a clownshoes thing. Most of the OC I have seen is by buffoons, using cheap, shoddy gear that just screams "dumb narcissist", just like the situation described by the OP. The person described is at best a slob. Far too many of the OC types convey a poor impression to the general public, a group that is overtly hostile to us. I have seen nice gear with BBQ guns, but it is not common. Most of the serious shooters and fighters I know (i.e., people who avoid ARFCOM) have the same views.
I will never forget the call to which I was sent that came from some whiny crybaby (I knew from the start that this was a whiny crybaby, because the area code in the call was 360; like 206, 253, and 425, almost everyone with such an area code with whom I have dealt professionally is a whiny crybaby and a pain in the gluteal muscles). He was all bent out out of shape over someone OC in a grocery store. He could not describe any misconduct, he was just scared and uncomfortable and thought there out to be a law as a result. Yes, he is a worthless piece of excrement whose opinion is not worth the carbon dioxide he expelled in giving it, BUT: there are a lot of people like him. They HATE us and are just looking for an excuse to screw with us. OC makes us a lot of enemies in some settings and locales. Contrary to the claims of advocates, I have seen nothing that tells me that the practice de-sensitizes the antis or even the undecided to the sight of armed citizens.
I want to get left alone. I do not want some idiot to give me a lot of grief, or make some B(ogu)S call to LE because they have an agenda and want to make a scene, cause us problems, etc. They are out there, and they are common. It is a tactic advocated by these antis. Most of the time they are skirting the law about making a false statement to LE, so they will not get charged.
There is a time and place for OC - I get it. Some places, it will be common. In a rural area, working outside, I just might. People whose carry piece is accidentally exposed should not be at risk of being charged - that is just stupid. I get it. The idiot descried in the OP? Heck no.
I will never forget the call to which I was sent that came from some whiny crybaby (I knew from the start that this was a whiny crybaby, because the area code in the call was 360; like 206, 253, and 425, almost everyone with such an area code with whom I have dealt professionally is a whiny crybaby and a pain in the gluteal muscles). He was all bent out out of shape over someone OC in a grocery store. He could not describe any misconduct, he was just scared and uncomfortable and thought there out to be a law as a result. Yes, he is a worthless piece of excrement whose opinion is not worth the carbon dioxide he expelled in giving it, BUT: there are a lot of people like him. They HATE us and are just looking for an excuse to screw with us. OC makes us a lot of enemies in some settings and locales. Contrary to the claims of advocates, I have seen nothing that tells me that the practice de-sensitizes the antis or even the undecided to the sight of armed citizens.
I want to get left alone. I do not want some idiot to give me a lot of grief, or make some B(ogu)S call to LE because they have an agenda and want to make a scene, cause us problems, etc. They are out there, and they are common. It is a tactic advocated by these antis. Most of the time they are skirting the law about making a false statement to LE, so they will not get charged.
There is a time and place for OC - I get it. Some places, it will be common. In a rural area, working outside, I just might. People whose carry piece is accidentally exposed should not be at risk of being charged - that is just stupid. I get it. The idiot descried in the OP? Heck no.
Targets Guy
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