interesting open carry option seen today

It doesn't matter to me where someone else carries their gun. Their gun, their business.
I'm only concerned with mine.
As far as giving a "bad name" by open carrying, unless said person is being foolish or careless doing so, the "bad name" problem lies within the head of the person that thinks so.
Just my take on it.
 
CQB27, I am proud to say I grew up just a few miles from Davey's last home before he went to Texas. that was in Rutherford, TN. this is where he was a congressman. still have a lot of his decendents around here. lee

David Crockett was an open carry advocate forever. Ditto on being a neighbor of his descendants. Crockett County is named for him.

PS: Walt Disney named him Davey; there is no known instance of his being called Davey prior to Disney, but we West Tennesseans all knew that.
 
... so the Alamo only had Davy Crocket present, astounding kill ratio even if I do say so myself.

Baloney..............

I think you might have taken my comment a bit too seriously. I don't think DC was the only person there (or the only Tennessean), and to your point, that's why I said "might". It was all in jest.
 
I thought Open carry would make me no difference before it was passed.
I always carry concealed except at home, or inside my vehicle. With all
the new refugees coming in and criminal illegals i decided that i need to
be able to draw faster especially from inside my vehicle. I also decided
that i needed more than just two revolvers so now a revolver is backup
and my Glock 45 cal is primary. Now i am thinking about maybe getting
one more Glock 45 so i would have twins.
 
I see from reading this thread I must be the only person that conceals when working around the homestead and wandering the woods and fields. I either use a shoulder holster under my shirt or my shirt tail out over a belt holster. It keeps a lot of dirt and trash out of my gun and holster and especially when running a chain saw. Larry
 
open carry is legal in new mex with no permit.
i'm about the only one around here who does, n that's just during snake season.
most people just carry in their car, as concealed in a car is legal with no permit.
open is still a novelty in texas, so people are making a big deal of it.
here, it's always been legal so most don't bother with it.

You're right. I spent my LE career in NM and prior to CCW being passed in 2004 (?), while open carry was legal per State law some cities had laws against it so it was often confusing to people. When Albuquerque passed an ordinance denying CCW it was challenged and the State Supreme Court finally ruled that State Law Preempted all local laws.

Don't know if open carry is any more common but as late as the early 90's when my daughters were in high school it was still quite common to see rifles and shotguns in pickup racks parked in the HS parking lot.
 
and....

I think you might have taken my comment a bit too seriously. I don't think DC was the only person there (or the only Tennessean), and to your point, that's why I said "might". It was all in jest.

In jest it was taken.

Texas was just beginning and we all know their were exceptional patriots from all over that helped her defeat Mexico and become the Great State of Texas.

... no offence was taken nor directed on the flip side.
 
It is not a Tennessee thing, or anti-2nd Amendment thing. It is a clownshoes thing. Most of the OC I have seen is by buffoons, using cheap, shoddy gear that just screams "dumb narcissist", just like the situation described by the OP. The person described is at best a slob. Far too many of the OC types convey a poor impression to the general public, a group that is overtly hostile to us. I have seen nice gear with BBQ guns, but it is not common. Most of the serious shooters and fighters I know (i.e., people who avoid ARFCOM) have the same views.

I will never forget the call to which I was sent that came from some whiny crybaby (I knew from the start that this was a whiny crybaby, because the area code in the call was 360; like 206, 253, and 425, almost everyone with such an area code with whom I have dealt professionally is a whiny crybaby and a pain in the gluteal muscles). He was all bent out out of shape over someone OC in a grocery store. He could not describe any misconduct, he was just scared and uncomfortable and thought there out to be a law as a result. Yes, he is a worthless piece of excrement whose opinion is not worth the carbon dioxide he expelled in giving it, BUT: there are a lot of people like him. They HATE us and are just looking for an excuse to screw with us. OC makes us a lot of enemies in some settings and locales. Contrary to the claims of advocates, I have seen nothing that tells me that the practice de-sensitizes the antis or even the undecided to the sight of armed citizens.

I want to get left alone. I do not want some idiot to give me a lot of grief, or make some B(ogu)S call to LE because they have an agenda and want to make a scene, cause us problems, etc. They are out there, and they are common. It is a tactic advocated by these antis. Most of the time they are skirting the law about making a false statement to LE, so they will not get charged.

There is a time and place for OC - I get it. Some places, it will be common. In a rural area, working outside, I just might. People whose carry piece is accidentally exposed should not be at risk of being charged - that is just stupid. I get it. The idiot descried in the OP? Heck no.
 
as I was having lunch with my grand kids today I saw a guy carrying a revolver in what appeared to be a left hand IWB holster clipped to the right front pocket of his jeans. it was flopping around every step he took. did not look all that secure to me. my granddaughter asked me if I had a holster like that. I said I did and I had it on at the time but in the proper place. just an interesting observation. we have always had open carry in TN and in the 17 years I have been back home I may have seen half a dozen people open carrying. lee


He must be a "Spencer" fan from Criminal Minds.
 
OC makes us a lot of enemies in some settings and locales. Contrary to the claims of advocates, I have seen nothing that tells me that the practice de-sensitizes the antis or even the undecided to the sight of armed citizens.

Agreed. It's mission accomplished when you mention to an acquaintance that you're a gunny person after they spout some gungrabber tripe, and their jaw hits the floor. It's been my experience that that's the only way you can really convert someone.
 
I am constantly amazed.At how many so called 2nd amendment supporters.Are actually anti gun do y'all self hate or is it just everybody who does not do exactly as you.

Shell, you are missing the point.

It's one of those things where they say - "with friends like that who needs enemies?"

We have anti's all around looking for ways to upstage or embarrass us, or lately, to get us to "explain ourselves."

Responsible gun owners pay the price when some fool acts like a *******, just because he can, when he exercises his various constitutional rights for dubious reasons.
 
We've had open carry in Oklahoma for a while now. Where I live, it's still pretty rare to see anyone openly packing a gun other than a cop. But, a few people do avail themselves of the opportunity.

I almost missed this one in line next to me at the local Walmart a couple weeks ago...

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We've had open carry in Oklahoma for a while now. Where I live, it's still pretty rare to see anyone openly packing a gun other than a cop. But, a few people do avail themselves of the opportunity.

I almost missed this one in line next to me at the local Walmart a couple weeks ago...

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Hard to tell if that's a Man or Woman. WAL-MART:rolleyes:
 
I have noticed that most people I see open carrying, carry in a cheap looking nylon holster or a plastic tactical looking rig.

Although I did see a lady carrying a commander in a leather belt slide today at Walmart yesterday.
 
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just so you know, my holsters are pretty nice. good leather well fitted to the gun.
they cost more than some guns.
 
This got me to thinking and as near as I can remember, just about ever person I've ever seen open carrying had some sort of cheap, junk holster. Kinda makes you wonder, don't it? :confused:


Yep. Saw a girl carry an M&P Shield with pink grip panels in what had to be an Airsoft holster. Gun flopped around as she walked.
 
I open carry sometimes. Really don't care what anyone else thinks about it, if it makes people uncomfortable, too bad. There is alot of **** going on these days that makes me uncomfortable, but I'm a middle aged white man so nobody cares. Most people probably don't think twice about it since I'm a clean cut and well dressed person. However, I have started to conceal more and more since I had what I was 95% sure was a setup to try and grab my piece in the grocery store. I think it's wiser to conceal, but I'm not going to lie, I carry openly sometimes just to be a dick. I'm always aware of people nearby when I do, and there is nothing quite like a handgun on someone's hip to make someone think twice about acting like a fool.
 
My thoughts....

OC first to get shot - Unsubstantiated.
OC helps deter criminal - Substantiated Wright/Rossi Dept of Justice Study
OC hurts gun owner rights - False
OC unwanted attention - True
CC surprise advantage- Another "what if' exercise.
 
The only time that I open carry is when I'm involved in a situation where I want to clearly set the stage of, if you want to do something stupid, expect to get dead or seriously injured. This includes person to person transactions that include large amounts of cash, asking uninvited hunters to leave our property, and when I go out to federal land to do long range shooting where I know others will likely be there and also be armed. I find it invites politeness and understanding.

Most of the time I prefer to carry concealed. I carry most of the time, even at church. Work is the one exception because they have asked me not to, it's not a public access area, and I respect their property rights.

I personally can draw a lot faster with an open carry holster than with my concealed holster. Usually it is my shirt that ends up slowing me down when carrying concealed. Since all my shirts are different left ha, weights, sometimes have jacket on etc it makes it hard to really train for with much success. If I'll be in a situation where I feel a few seconds might make a big difference I'll open carry.
 
My thoughts....

OC first to get shot - Unsubstantiated.
OC helps deter criminal - Substantiated Wright/Rossi Dept of Justice Study
OC hurts gun owner rights - False
OC unwanted attention - True
CC surprise advantage- Another "what if' exercise.
It all comes down to where you live. People like to generalize but it doesnt work that way. OC in a large metro city may not work like it would in a Wyoming town or a small semi rural area. Even in a metro area there are places where OC may be a bad thing.

For instance I live in the suburbs and if I OC chances are some soccer mom may call the cops. If I were in certain parts of the city the same thing would happen however if I were in the N. Philadelphia section of the city OC would be a bad thing. It would be a sign of shoot me and take my stuff!

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I open carry sometimes. Really don't care what anyone else thinks about it, if it makes people uncomfortable, too bad. There is alot of **** going on these days that makes me uncomfortable, but I'm a middle aged white man so nobody cares. Most people probably don't think twice about it since I'm a clean cut and well dressed person. However, I have started to conceal more and more since I had what I was 95% sure was a setup to try and grab my piece in the grocery store. I think it's wiser to conceal, but I'm not going to lie, I carry openly sometimes just to be a dick. I'm always aware of people nearby when I do, and there is nothing quite like a handgun on someone's hip to make someone think twice about acting like a fool.
That right there's one of the reasons I always carry concealed.
I'm a long haired dark skinned Injun and people notice. Ain't no reason to draw more attention to myself.
 
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