Interpreting Internet Auction Pictures

This Colt was refinished (though by some high-end pros). Other than the triangle stamp being slightly faded, it would fool a lot of people.

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So, serious question: every parkerized Victory I've seen has the rebound pin ground flat. So S&W did do this from the factory. Unless I'm wrong? I'm no Victory expert.
 
So, serious question: every parkerized Victory I've seen has the rebound pin ground flat. So S&W did do this from the factory. Unless I'm wrong? I'm no Victory expert.


Yes, the Victory revolvers had the rebound slide stud polished down at the factory although it often wasn't flush with the frame. S&W didn't spend a lot of time making these guns pretty.
 
This has been a very informative thread.
I have learned a lot, thanks to all for the effort.
Makes me want to drag out some revolvers and take a look, then again maybe not. 😳😁
 
This has been a very informative thread.
I have learned a lot, thanks to all for the effort.
Makes me want to drag out some revolvers and take a look, then again maybe not. 😳😁

Please do! If any seem off and you snap some pictures of them it would be a great contribution to the thread.
 
This post is about a known gunsmith, and the work that he did in restoring this circa-1908 4" 32-20 target revolver. Clearly there is no guessing about who might have done the work. And, there is no guessing about what the work involved. This makes it much easier to understand and appreciate the work that goes into refinishing and restoration.

The first three pictures are the gun before I sent it to Dave Chicoine. For fun, you might want to note what you think is wrong with the gun.

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The gun shows a lot of wear and surface damage, and the grips show severe wear.

The next two pictures are Dave Chicoine's enumeration of the condition of the gun, and his estimate of the cost to restore the gun.

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Note that I sent the gun without the grips. I had already sent them to Keith Brown for re-checkering.

Dave and I had already agreed that he would preserve as much of the original roll markings as possible, which he did. He noted a bulge in the barrel, in the vicinity of the front sight base. In the next set of pictures, that region of the barrel right-side roll markings is weaker, by necessity, than the rest of the markings.

The remaining pictures are the gun as it is today. I should mention that everything about the gun is original. The barrel, frame, cylinder, yoke, and grips are all numbered correctly. The grips are spectacular, and the rest of the gun is as good as it can get.

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Regards, Mike Priwer
 
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Mike,

It's beautiful!

"For fun, you might want to note what you think is wrong with the gun."

I wouldn't say there's anything 'wrong' but there appears to be an anomaly or departure from the normal evolution:

It appears to be a Model 1902 -1st Change, yet it has a 5th screw in front of the trigger guard of the Model of 1905/Third Model.
 
Mike,

It's beautiful!

"For fun, you might want to note what you think is wrong with the gun."

I wouldn't say there's anything 'wrong' but there appears to be an anomaly or departure from the normal evolution:

It appears to be a Model 1902 -1st Change, yet it has a 5th screw in front of the trigger guard of the Model of 1905/Third Model.


What makes you think it is an 02-1st?
It has a rebound slide, so it can be no earlier than a 1905-1st....
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At ser # 40070, it should be a 1905-2nd.
You are going to cause Mike to have a conniption by calling a square butt a 1902!!!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek:
 

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This is such a great thread! I have learned so much. I am much better at detecting refinishes than i used to be. I honestly think buying a refinished gun accidently and studying it has helped me more than anything.

One other thing i look at is even wear from finish to stocks if they are factory. My model 36 had original stocks that were clearly worn down but there was no holster wear and very little handling marks. That and the screws were polished flat. That little model 36 has been an excellent educational tool.
 
What makes you think it is an 02-1st?

You are going to cause Mike to have a conniption by calling a square butt a 1902!!!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek:

LOL. Well as usual when my comments seem (are) off the wall my lame eyesight and/or extended age have kicked in again. For some reason beyond my comprehension at this moment, I misread the year in Mike's post "circa 1908" as 1904.
 
This thread is a great learning tool. I'm getting a sharper eye. Guns with "issues" that just looked odd, now scream out at me! Seeing subtle issues, say with a well-done reblue, are extremely interesting.
 

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