Iraqvet8888 vs S&W Sport II

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According to Google 12-15 rounds per minute sustained rate of for an M-16 or about an hour for 820 rounds. Pretty sure I never saw that rate of fire in RVN. Pretty impressive performance for any weapon let alone a civilian version of a military weapon. I really get tired of the term "entry level" though,seems to me it will go bang and do what it was designed to do no matter the cost. Dead is dead. I enjoy IV8888 videos.
 
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snm8510 said:
Same. Budget or basic level is better fitting IMO.
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I don't know... "budget level" makes it sound cheap to me. "Entry level" at least implies that it is worth buying if you are just getting into ARs.

I've tried to not get worked up over the labels and just enjoy my Sport for what it is, a reliable carbine that meets my needs.
 
I like 'inexpensive'. Despite the snobs' blathering, the price is the real difference between these and the 'premium' makes. But snobbery... :p
 
cyphertext said:
Arik is right... there is more to it. You can decide if the difference between higher priced rifles and a Sport are worth paying for with the way you use the rifle, but there are differences.
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I've checked various reviews and noted the comments on grades of materials, etc. BUT for practical purposes, you are not getting a 3-4x better rifle for 3-4 times the price. A lot of feel-good, though. If that brings satisfaction in the purchase, then the price is fully justified.
 
shep854 said:
I've checked various reviews and noted the comments on grades of materials, etc. BUT for practical purposes, you are not getting a 3-4x better rifle for 3-4 times the price. A lot of feel-good, though. If that brings satisfaction in the purchase, then the price is fully justified.
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So, what you just said is that you acknowledge that there are differences, but those differences are not worth the difference in price to you...

That is quite a different statement than "Despite the snobs' blathering, the price is the real difference between these and the 'premium' makes."
 
Skeptic 9c said:
They are essentially just testing the upper, not the lower.
Geoff
Trying to be accurate.
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These types of torture tests can be entertaining but it seems to me that a Sport isn't a Sport using a lower and bolt carrier group from other manufactures which replaces all moving Sport parts. Prefer to see a Sport operate as a Sport. What was left to test was a Sport barrel, gas tube and flash hider. The flash hider came lose and gas system failed. What was learned?

However, it was nice to hear that the Palmetto BCG survived in working order. I recently bought one for the wife's AR build.
 
cyphertext said:
So, what you just said is that you acknowledge that there are differences, but those differences are not worth the difference in price to you...

That is quite a different statement than "Despite the snobs' blathering, the price is the real difference between these and the 'premium' makes."
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Hehehe... I need popcorn. Snobbery is real, especially for splitting hairs.
Enjoy the rifle of your choice and be safe with it. May it never have to be sued fir anything but fun.
 
S&W makes good handguns, I have quite a few of them, but not all are without problems. As far as AR rifles I always buy Colt. They always cost quite a bit more than their competitors. Mil spec means a lot to me, and none has ever failed me. To each their own.
 
KSDeputy said:
S&W makes good handguns, I have quite a few of them, but not all are without problems. As far as AR rifles I always buy Colt. They always cost quite a bit more than their competitors. Mil spec means a lot to me, and none has ever failed me. To each their own.
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Too bad the Colt isn't Mil-spec... Ask Colt if their civilian rifles are mil-spec. Their answer is going to disappoint you.
 
ChattanoogaPhil said:
These types of torture tests can be entertaining but it seems to me that a Sport isn't a Sport using a lower and bolt carrier group from other manufactures which replaces all moving Sport parts.
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I thought the same... By changing out the BCG, you just swapped the heart of the rifle. But, if you watch his other vids, you see that the PSA upper melted down around 500 rounds. So you could conclude that the Sport barrel is better in his particular samples.
 
cyphertext said:
I thought the same... By changing out the BCG, you just swapped the heart of the rifle. But, if you watch his other vids, you see that the PSA upper melted down around 500 rounds. So you could conclude that the Sport barrel is better in his particular samples.
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The barrel on my wife's AR wouldn't make it even 500rds in FA since it's a pencil barrel and specifically built to be light weight. Though it would not surprise me if it outlasted a Colt. ;)
 
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