Is it a Rifle? Shotgun?

[David R]

My 22/410 has side selector. I leave it on shotgun because if I have to shoot fast.

My 222/20 has the silly crossbolt safety. Hammer selector. Leave it on shotgun, I can select which as I cock the gun bringing it to my shoulder. When the gun was new, the selector on the hammer broke. It was too hard. When I called the factory for a new selector, they asked "does the serial # start with an E. I said yes. They send me a new one free. I installed it.

My 222 chamber is really big. I can load bullets as long as I want and not touch the rifling. I too thought about opening up to 223. But since it shoots well, and most of the time I use reduced loads in the 222 barrel anyhow. I am getting Minute Of Squirrel out to 25 yards which is as far I can shoot with iron sights.

Velocity is 2470.


Pretty? Nope. Practical? Yup.

David

 

[David Sinko]

I have a 24F in .30-30 over 12 gauge. I can take this thing into the woods and be ready for anything that walks, crawls, flies or slithers across this continent. The versatility is amazing. The .30-30 barrel is amazingly accurate, especially with full power cast bullet handloads. Just this past weekend I was at a gun show and my favorite dealer had a new Blaser combo gun, 12 gauge over .30-06. Oh how I wanted it, but he wanted $5950 for it. The Savage will have to carry on.

Can somebody please explain why the Savage has the rifle barrel on top and all the nice European guns have the rifle barrel on the bottom? Experience tells me that Savage does not bother to regulate the lower (shotgun) barrel, as mine shoots way low at even moderate distance. But even so, shouldn't the more important rifle barrel be directly under the sights?

Dave Sinko

 

[Jessie]

Well, I found one...30-30/20ga., wood stock, decent shape and ok price.
Should have it by the end of the week I hope.
I blame the OP entirely for this one!
Actually I need to edit to say not entirely...the fact that we now have heavily overlapping deer/turkey seasons was the driving factor.
Your thread was the catalyst.

 

[Jessie]

I have a 24F in .30-30 over 12 gauge. I can take this thing into the woods and be ready for anything that walks, crawls, flies or slithers across this continent. The versatility is amazing. The .30-30 barrel is amazingly accurate, especially with full power cast bullet handloads. Just this past weekend I was at a gun show and my favorite dealer had a new Blaser combo gun, 12 gauge over .30-06. Oh how I wanted it, but he wanted $5950 for it. The Savage will have to carry on.

Can somebody please explain why the Savage has the rifle barrel on top and all the nice European guns have the rifle barrel on the bottom? Experience tells me that Savage does not bother to regulate the lower (shotgun) barrel, as mine shoots way low at even moderate distance. But even so, shouldn't the more important rifle barrel be directly under the sights?

Dave Sinko

Well, the rifle barrel is under the sights. I've been reading a couple of fixes for the out of regulation guns.
One is to shim under the barrel band and the other method was to install a second rear fold down sight so there is a rear sight for each barrel.

 

[glenncal1]

Well, I found one...30-30/20ga., wood stock, decent shape and ok price.
Should have it by the end of the week I hope.
I blame the OP entirely for this one!
Actually I need to edit to say not entirely...the fact that we now have heavily overlapping deer/turkey seasons was the driving factor.
Your thread was the catalyst.

Jessie you are a big boy,I can not be blamed for any gun purchases. But if that is what you need to tell your wife it is ok with me

 

[tbgunner88]

My dad has one in 222/20gauge and uses it to turkey hunt. They are a little awkward to handle, but their versatility makes up for that. I would like to have one in a bigger caliber combination to be able to use for big game and still have the shotgun for small game with all the overlapping seasons here in Va as Jessie pointed out.

 

[Jessie]

Jessie you are a big boy,I can not be blamed for any gun purchases. But if that is what you need to tell your wife it is ok with me

Thanks Glenn, I already did.

 

[WaMike]

Before I knew about barrel regulating, I killed a lot of bunnies and pheasants with my .410. Later, when I tried shooting .410 slugs, I realized how low that barrel was compared to the 22 l.r. above. Since the brazed barrels can't be shimmed, on the rare occasions I should slugs, I use the bottom of the front sight as an aiming point....or if I have time, I raise the rear sight. It's pretty academic though: I'm not sure the .410 slug has much usefulness.

I did shim the 20 gauge barrel on my 222/20, using chunks of pop can. They shoot pretty close to each other now, and the shims can't be seen under the barrel clamps.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

I have a Springfield over-under/superposed combination gun called an M6 Scout:

Springfield Armory M6 Scout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A very handy item that I plan to give to a good friend who needs it to shoot snakes while he walks his dogs in the Colorado mountains.

I guess they are called "drillings" when they have three barrels but just combination guns when it's 2 barrels.

***GRJ***