Is it safe to use steel ammo case (wolf ammo)

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I've heard not to use steal cases but also heard its due to the coating on the shell. Polymer coating being ok and the lacquer coating not? Guy local to me is selling 1000 rounds for $460
 
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I've heard not to use steal cases but also heard its due to the coating on the shell. Polymer coating being ok and the lacquer coating not? Guy local to me is selling 1000 rounds for $460


You did not say what gun type or caliber. You can get away with a lot with revolvers or other manual actions.
First - let me say that I have no experience with modern steel case ammo.

However back in the 1960's I once bought a M-1 Carbine and a couple boxes of cheap steel case ammo. I did not bother cleaning or oiling the barrel or chamber. The shells ejected fine at first. At some point they ejected shorter and shorter distance until they began hitting me. When I looked at the extractor it was obvious that the shells were ripping the edge off of the extractor.

The extractor on many such rifles is driven by a gas piston and actually pulls the shell out.

In a revolver, you eject the shells and you feel many problems. Obviously a lever action and even a bolt action has a "feel" to it.

I am not the person to ask about polymer or lacquer coating on shells but maybe my experience my have some small input value. Blowback actions can work without an extractor as you may note that a Beretta Bobcat semi auto .22 has no extractor only an ejector.

You are correct to try to research this subject.
 
I have used the steel in 9mm, 45 acp and .223. I've never had any issues with it but yes the coating on it can gunk up the chamber leading to problems if not cleaned out preferably at the end of the shooting session for that day. When Tula 0.223 here runs $5 for 20 it's worth trying or if you have the slidefire and don't want to waste the expensive stuff!
 
Sorry this would be for .223 for an AR-15. Running a temp of 102, not exactly with it today
 
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I have ran plenty of steel cased Tula thought my Glock with no issues what so ever.

My M&P15 seems to like steel cased Tula better then PMC Bronze.
 
Hmm interesting bc one if my supervisors who is Heay into guns said not to run steel cases through the AR But the guy selling the ammo said it just depends on what kinda coating that's on it so I was confused on the whole thing
 
Use it. Thousands of rounds of cheap-o Russian steel-case ammo downrange in ten years, and my cheap-o Olympic Arms Plinker works better than ever.
 
Awesome thank you. Just hope he still has it when I'm ready to buy it
 
Travis tell yea the truth you have stumbled on to one of them debates like Ford Vs Chevy or 9mm Vs 45acp for self defense.

Also I dont know why I neglected this in my original post but I pass on the deal. Thats $9.50 a box for something that most likely cost 4-5 dollars a box max before all the panic buying. Obviously the choice is yours but that just seems expensive for steel case.
 
Personally I will never shoot Wolf ammo again in an AR. I had a Wolf case get stuck in the chamber and the gunsmith had to pound it out. He told me the steel cases will do that and I'm a believer from first hand experience.
 
I was always a snob and wouldn't buy any 5.56/.223, though I thought it was probably OK. I just bought all XM193, Q3131, and IMI M193 for the sake of uniformity and quality.

Then one day the local pusher had some Wolf 9MM really cheap.
I bought 1000 rounds.

My Glock 26 choked on the first Mag. If it won't run in a Glock that really scares me. No more steel cased ammo for me. (sold the rest of the 9MM at a profit)

Emory

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Hard To Kill
 
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40 S&W

I was always a snob and wouldn't buy any 5.56/.223, though I thought it was probably OK. I just bought all XM193, Q3131, and IMI M193 for the sake of uniformity and quality.

Then one day the local pusher had some Wolf 9MM really cheap.
I bought 1000 rounds.

My Glock 27 choked on the first Mag. If it won't run in a Glock that really scares me. No more steel cased ammo for me. (sold the rest of the 9MM at a profit)

Emory
the glock 27 is a 40 S&W not a 9mm it is a small problem
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the glock 27 is a 40S&W not a 9mm it is a small problem
 
Fixed it. Thank God an expert came along..............

Emory

You would be surprised over on a glock forum how many people accidently (some on purpose) try to shoot 9mm thought a 40 barrel.

I DONT RECOMMEND THIS NEXT PART IT COULD BE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS

One of the guys even went as far as buying a extra 40 barrel and shooting 500 rounds of 9mm thought it. It worked but to me that's extremely dangerous. He just wanted to prove the point in a emergency the 9 would work in a 40.
 
Steel works just fine in any gun I own... (Including my Glock) Especially works better in my foreign made guns, AKs, SKS, Glock's, Mauser, Berettas. I have used steel in my S&W 3rd gen 9mm w/o any problems. I don't own an AR but steel works fine in my Ruger Mini 14. You always need to clean the firearm well after any use anyway.
 
You would be surprised over on a glock forum how many people accidently (some on purpose) try to shoot 9mm thought a 40 barrel.

I DONT RECOMMEND THIS NEXT PART IT COULD BE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS

One of the guys even went as far as buying a extra 40 barrel and shooting 500 rounds of 9mm thought it. It worked but to me that's extremely dangerous. He just wanted to prove the point in a emergency the 9 would work in a 40.

I'm not surprised....several times I have found 9mm cases at public ranges that were blown out to about 40cal at the case mouth. Figured some fool had fired them in a 40 and was lucky they didn't come apart.
 
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