Is s&w replacing parts or just modifing existing parts for their known issues mp15-22

[kilo6echo]

Is s&w replacing parts or just modifing existing parts for their known issues mp15-22

Is s&w replacing parts or just modifing existing parts for their known issues mp15-22?

 

[Jase3gt]

That's a good question. Mine is there now and I'll try to remember to post when I get it back.

 

[27 Beck]

Is s&w replacing parts or just modifing existing parts for their known issues mp15-22?

Fix will depend on the problem.

In my case, S&W had to replace the extractor, as it was no longer in the bolt. Did they replace it with same or improved part? I don't know, as I don't have the old one for comparison.

I think they also checked the location of the ejector.

They added two magazined to my collection.

 

[kilo6echo]

Fix will depend on the problem.

In my case, S&W had to replace the extractor, as it was no longer in the bolt. Did they replace it with same or improved part? I don't know, as I don't have the old one for comparison.

I think they also checked the location of the ejector.

They added two magazined to my collection.

Maybe they are just doing both when they get them in. Replacing both the ejector and extractor...

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Is s&w replacing parts or just modifing existing parts for their known issues mp15-22?

Duknow.... but at least I haven't read of any rifles failing after being repaired.

 

[chuck s]

You'll hear if mine does.

-- Chuck

 

[CORPORAL PUNISHMENT]

same for me I'll post bad or good when it comes back!

 

[Jase3gt]

Yeah! Fedex brought me my rifle this morning. It looks like they just bent the ejector out. It looks like the same exact piece. They also gave me two more magazines. It was quick. I dropped it off at Fed Ex last Thursday night and they received it Friday afternoon. I don't know if I'll get to try out this week though.

 

[paulgl26]

mine was just drop off at my house i got a new ejector and 2 new mags same extractor is on the gun
ill check it out on Wednesday
the paper did not give any info on the repairs done

 

[Thomas_H]

My bet is that they are they are replacing parts. It's far more cost effective to replace a cheap out of spec part with a cheap in-spec part, then try to make the out of spec part work. Plus, it's one less chance that they will have to work on the rifle again at a later date.

 

[fishinbill85]

HI all,

I'm new to the forum and I joined after reading that apparently a LOT of rifles have had issues. I bought my mp 15-22 on 1/7/10 and I loved it. Currently I have about 200 rds through it (federal bulk) and I switched ammo (winchester xpert hv) and the first round apparently (pure speculation) fired out of battery and blew open the back of the casing spewing burning powder into my hand (little ouch). It also blew the extractor out of the bolt and into the yard somewhere never to be found again. I managed to find the spring and another small part jammed up in the gun....Now, I'm obviously mad about this meaning the gun is effectively 4 days old and it's already disabled. I have called s&w and they are sending me a return label for shipment back to the mothership.

My question is, are they going to make this "right" without having to be "coaxed"?

FYI, my hand got burnt (partially my fault) because I was holding a bucket about a foot from the ejection port to collect brass for primer strike inspection, etc. Nevertheless thats not normal and has never happened to me before..........It was also a very loud report, obviously due to the case rupturing.

I have read about some of these rifles firing out of battery, and that's what has me suspicious. I noticed that when I was firing the federal bulk I had one that got about half way into the chamber and went off, because the bottom 1/4 of the case was "belled" out. The one that blew had a slight bell going but ruptured due to (I belive) thinner brass. Thoughts? Sorry for the Speech but I'm kinda miffed over this issue. Thanks.

 

[Thomas_H]

What do you mean by "make it right"? They will fix the rifle. I'm not sure what else your expecting.

Out of curiosity, when you took the rifle home from the dealer, did you field strip, clean the chamber and bore and lube the rifle?

 

[fishinbill85]

As a matter of fact I did strip and clean the rifle prior to shooting it. I am downright O.C.D when it comes to cleaning my firearms.

There are numerous reports of extractors "blowing out" of the bolts on these weapons, and most of the instances I have read about were harmless, meaning nobody got hurt. In MYparticular case, this could have seriously hurt or (worse) me or someone else. I'm not a pansy by any stretch, but members of my family were shooting this rifle as well and it could have been bad.

I don't believe I'll try legal recourse or any of that crap because frankly.......that's what's wrong with this country today. However, when I ask if they will make it right, I mean are they going to "fix" the rifle and pretend nothing happened or will they maybe go above and beyond and take steps to retain future business from myself and others that have had similar incidents like this? I'll see what happens.

 

[27 Beck]

As a matter of fact I did strip and clean the rifle prior to shooting it. I am downright O.C.D when it comes to cleaning my firearms.

There are numerous reports of extractors "blowing out" of the bolts on these weapons, and most of the instances I have read about were harmless, meaning nobody got hurt. In MYparticular case, this could have seriously hurt or (worse) me or someone else. I'm not a pansy by any stretch, but members of my family were shooting this rifle as well and it could have been bad.

I don't believe I'll try legal recourse or any of that crap because frankly.......that's what's wrong with this country today. However, when I ask if they will make it right, I mean are they going to "fix" the rifle and pretend nothing happened or will they maybe go above and beyond and take steps to retain future business from myself and others that have had similar incidents like this? I'll see what happens.

Like you, my 15-22 had an OOB and the extractor went missing. Sent my gun off to S&W with a round trip expense paid by them. Rifle fixed and brought up to current factory specs. They also included two magazines at no charge. So S&W did me right. They will do you right too.

OOBs can occur with any semi auto, any brand. If the ammo is slightly out of spec and doesn't enter the chamber all the way. The chamber is to spec, the ammo isn't. So who is to blame, the gun or the ammo? That is why it is important to wear shooting glasses when shooting. Not a good idea to have someone standing next to the shooter.

OOBs also can occur with .223s. Now that will make you change your underwear.

 

[BELT_FED]

amen to this,,, i had a 10/22 blow the mag out of the gun and set my jacket on fire.... guns are dangerous anyone that tells you different has lost their minds...just as a rule of thumb i try to never stand on the ejection side of a weapon for that simple reason... and that ive seen a semi auto gun fire open bolt with a broke firing pin and spun the shooter around about 60 degrees

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I think FishinBill and Belt_Fed make good points.

Guns are dangerous and all of us should be well aware of this, ------> especially S&W.

Is it a secret that the 15-22 suffers chronic issues that increase the odds of an incident leading to injury? Is this even arguable? What actions has S&W taken to correct their shipped product other than letting the purchaser find out the hard way? To my knowledge S&W has made no effort whatsoever, and play dumb about it when asked. Is that the best this great firearms manufacturer is capable of? FishinBill just bought his rifle a couple days ago. No doubt the S&W guys will be shocked when Bill calls.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

So who is to blame, the gun or the ammo?

On any one instance that's a good question. But when a firearm has such chronic problems as does the 15-22... I'd win money in Vegas betting on the gun being the problem.

 

[chuck s]

We're ßeta testing this carbine. Get paid two magazines every time we sent 'em back for problem resolution. 25% of users who responded to the poll indicate problems.

-- Chuck

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

We're ßeta testing this carbine. Get paid two magazines every time we sent 'em back for problem resolution. 25% of users who responded to the poll indicate problems.

-- Chuck

Beta testing... that's good!

 

[Thomas_H]

I don't believe I'll try legal recourse or any of that crap because frankly.......that's what's wrong with this country today. However, when I ask if they will make it right, I mean are they going to "fix" the rifle and pretend nothing happened or will they maybe go above and beyond and take steps to retain future business from myself and others that have had similar incidents like this? I'll see what happens.

By fixing the rifle under warranty, they are by definition, not pretending nothing happened. They could have just as easily claimed that it was bad ammo, improper use, etc. They could have easily told you to go pound sand. But they didn't. They took the rifle back under warranty, on their dime, on your word. If that's not good customer service, I'm not sure what is. They have already gone "above and beyond".

As far as legal recourse, it's good you don't plan on taking any legal action. You would not have any standing anyway unless there were any actual damages. Saying you "could have" been hurt will not cut it. Don't get me wrong, I understand where your coming from. I regularly take my children with me to the range to do some plinking.

As far as you getting your hand burnt, that's all on you. You were purposefully holding your hand in front of the ejection port, which is commonly known to launch hot brass, hot carbon, and other crap out of the side of the rifle. Chalk it up as a lesson learned. Sometimes stupid hurts.