Is the 640 PRO worth the extra cost

I'd recommend saving your money and spend it on something more useful.

Moonclip capability sounds nice, but considering the fragility of the clips themselves and the potential reliability issues whether using the clips or not, I think a gun cut for moonclips is most suited for gun games and best avoided on a personal defense weapon.

A lot of fuss is made over sights, but the reality is that they really are not all that relevant in the vast majority of armed defense scenarios in which a civilian would be involved. And the incidents where sights might be useful, night sights would be of no added benefit over standards ones. For civilian personal defense, threat focused shooting is the norm and is almost always preferred considering the reactive nature of such events and the distances at which they occur. And while I think it is possible to align the sights while visually focused on a target in a controlled range environment, such is not likely the case in a dynamic one where you will rely primarily on physical indexing methods and the guns silhouette superimposed on the threat and I don't think sights contribute anything meaningful to aiming the weapon in this manner.

Just as a revolution occurred in the martial arts after the rise of NHB/MMA, I sometimes think something similar needs to happen with the shooting arts.

With reality-based and Force-on-Force training steadily gaining greater acceptance and credibility among reputable instructors who are starting to understand its value, it could be said it has already begun to some degree, but there are still countless holdouts who think the lessons learned are somehow invalid or that everything you could ever need to know about defensive shooting can be learned by static range work. And unless participants actually start using live ammo in FoF so that there is absolutely no doubt regarding the results, widespread acceptance will continue to be a gradual and relatively slow process. While FoF isn't the end all, be all(the same applies to MMA in relation to H2H) in the context of training for personal defense, it's about the best simulation currently available in terms of realistic training and everyone would be wise to learn and understand at least some portion of the useful elements that have been derived from it and apply it to their own training methods and preparedness plan. I think doing so would radically change opinions just as the UFC did with the martial arts.

If we take what we have learned from Force-on-Force and combine it with an analysis of real world events, it becomes clear what role handgun sights(in general and in particular night sights) actually play in civilian personal defense encounters, which is actually a relatively minor one.
 
My 640 Pro is accurate, has a great smooth trigger, has enough heft to handle Buffalo Bore 38 special+P with ease, even though it's rated for 357 magnum, I carry the later, +P will do the job, one of the things about the 640 Pro is the night sights that work well, nice feature, and of course the gun just feels great in my hand as do most j-frames...
 
Been carrying a small revolver EDC for more than 30 yrs. now. I've been thru a bunch.... M 10-2" RB, M 31, M 36, M 60, M 640, M 642, Colt DS, and finally a M 640 Pro. IMHO, It is the definitive small self defense revolver. As stated, the sights are the best bar none, the 357 M chambering is a plus, the moon clip is nice and the ergonomics for me at least are the best. I too carry 38 Special +Ps with a strip speed loader of 357 M.

I was pleasantly surprised at the perfectness of the action and the finish. I'm a pistolsmith and can perform any tuneup required. Other than opening it up just to look, clean and oil, I have not felt the need to do any modifications. Out to a normal pocket pistol range I can shoot it right along with my M 66, 2.5". I have carried it on my ankle, in a very light shoulder holster and a IWB holster... all very comfortably. If I have to carry in the front pocket of my Jeans, I switch back to the M 642. IMHO, it is worth the price. ......

Living on the edge of the desert, we experience coyotes in our street or our yard at least one or two nights per month. When I walk our little foofoo dogs out at night to do their duty I carry the M 640 Pro. Our 85 lb. Pit-bull/Mastiff can take care of her self. ... :-)
 
I was actually thinking about the 640Pro until I handled one a few weeks ago. I to didn't like the sights, but could've lived with them. I did fondle the PS M60 today and really liked the balance.
Something about 3" barrel I like.
 
This year I shot the TDI stubby class 16 hours and 750 rounds with the 640 pro. It performed great and was very accurate. I carry IWB and the 158 S.W.C. +P. Night sites are nice in hotel rooms . I have the banana grips on since I do not pocket carry,but outside coat pockets in cold weather.
 
I simply can't resist the 640 Pro threads.

It seems the more times this question gets asked the better the responses become. There's some well-thought-out self defense logic here among a bunch of just plain ol' common sense. I appreciate both aspects, but I tend to rely on the common sense.

A Centennial for ccw makes sense to me. I started with the M&P 340, then I moved on to the 640 Pro. At the end of the day I truly don't know the 8-ounce difference between the two (4 o'clock in a Lobo Enhanced Pancake). I'm better with the 640, but I attribute that to more time on the range. I'm not at all shabby with the 340. I don't train out to long distances; the Monty Python movie said it best, "Run away, run away."

Since getting hooked on these two Cents I've added an older 642 (no +P), a 940, a 43C and a 1955 steel Centennial. I like 'em all, but the original two are the only ones I carry due to the horsepower (my perception of a thread has more than two legs). I don't get hung up on the sights because that's not the way I train. One's as good as another.

The 43C is the most fun to shoot! The 640 Pro is the best looking! Neither of those attributes gets points if a time comes where I need to present it (not yet!).

My two bits,

Bob
 
A lot of fuss is made over sights, but the reality is that they really are not all that relevant in the vast majority of armed defense scenarios in which a civilian would be involved. And the incidents where sights might be useful, night sights would be of no added benefit over standards ones. For civilian personal defense, threat focused shooting is the norm and is almost always preferred considering the reactive nature of such events and the distances at which they occur. And while I think it is possible to align the sights while visually focused on a target in a controlled range environment, such is not likely the case in a dynamic one where you will rely primarily on physical indexing methods and the guns silhouette superimposed on the threat and I don't think sights contribute anything meaningful to aiming the weapon in this manner.

This is a good point MisterX.

After speaking with renowned SAA expert Jim Martin on the phone one day, he informed me of how he only point shoots and how he is able to teach folks in 1hr or money back. This peaked my interest so I began reading books on point shooting. The ones composed by Fairbairn, Sykes, Applegate, etc. (I have digital copies of those books.)

The fact that one is not usually going to be able to "set up" a bullseye target shot in a self defense situation, it really gives the incentive of breaking one's reliance on sights.

I have begun training with point shooting, and I will say it is relatively easy. However, I haven't trained enough to where I'm a super shot. So while practicing I began to try different things, and found that I can focus solely on the target while just slightly referencing my front sight peripherally. Can get good, fast accuracy like that.

So now I just need a bright and easy to pick up front sight, and it's only used briefly for alignment reference. Anything else just isn't needed. In fact, I wish I could remove the blocky rear accro and install some kind of slimmer custom "channel" sight like most snubbies have.

Of course not everyone will pursue this, but it's an idea if one wants to. Relying on sights is never good if you have to use your gun.
 
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