is this stolen valor?

snubbyfan said:
Don't nobody mention this to that clown. I get enough people coming up to me and telling me they're 1/16 Cherokee. They're usually blond and blue eyed and it's always Cherokee.
Them Cherokees musta been one heck of a busy tribe. Now I do know some people of Cherokee descent but they look it despite having very light skin.
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Old Indian country joke :

What do you call 64 Cherokees in a room?

A full-blood.
 
Years ago I had a close friend that always claimed to be part indian. Somehow I kind of doubted it but really didnt give a rats butt one way or the other. He had a brother that lived on the east coast and about every other year would drive out to see my buddy and I met him that way. Once we all were sitting in a resturant visiting and somehow the subject of indians came up. Now my buddy had a nice wife but she was nieve and many times I seen her eat up exaggerated tales my buddy would tell her about some events that he and I got into on and off the job as a lot of times we worked together and he and I were always out rideing our motorcycles, hitting the smorgasboards together when we were off work as we worked grave together and she worked days. Out of some sort of misplaced respect I usually would say nothing to contradict his storys. He really didnt need to exaggerate those storys as the truth was bad enough. He was a good man and did have my back a couple times. Anyway this time she naively popped off well, Will is part indian. Wills brothers wife looked surprised for a few seconds, thought that one over, scratched her head, turned to her husband, Wills full brother, and said , Hey Hans, if Will is part indian, How come you aint part indian? I wanted to die laughing but tried to keep from exploding! I had to go to the rest room to laugh! I bet they had to hear me!
To this day I still wonder if Hans`s wife was as naive as Wills was, as it sure looked like a good act of her trying to figure that one out! Hans just kind of looked down and said, I dont know.
 
In my younger days I was in the Airborne and during a practice jump my chute tangled and I had to cut it free and fell without it. Lucky for me I landed in a large hay stack which broke my fall, but during the fall the wind tore all my clothes off. I have a witness, a pretty blonde who, by coincidence, was also in that haystack. But you probably don't believe my story and I don't blame you. Neither the blonde's husband nor my wife did either.
Credit to Hap Shaughnessy and the Red Green Show.
 
So he is have white and half native American right? I'd get a crew cut incase the red half takes the white have scalping.
My son goes out with a pretty native American gal and he keeps his crew cut year round.
 
Have heard some pretty far out war stories but none like that. I agree that they are more sad than anything. Big stories usually come from people who deep down think they are small and are trying to pump themselves up to others.
 
Snubby, I once made a remark to you about being part Cherokee. If you could see pictures of my maternal relatives I doubt you'd disagree. Most of the women have straight black hair and the bridge of the nose is very indicative. The men are of slight build, dark hair, wiry and of stoic demeanor. Since my Dads side were Welshmen I inherited my physical looks from him. I got the stoic personality from Mom. Funny that stoicism doesn't show up on the internet.
But anyway I'm one of those books that shouldn't be judged! BTW, the Cherokee were one of the five civilized tribes that inhabited a large part of the southern US as far west as Oklahoma. Right in my families old stomping grounds, Tennessee!
 
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RonJ said:
Snubby, I once made a remark to you about being part Cherokee. If you could see pictures of my maternal relatives I doubt you'd disagree. Most of the women have straight black hair and the bridge of the nose is very indicative. The men are of slight build, dark hair, wiry and of stoic demeanor. Since my Dads side were Welshmen I inherited my physical looks from him. I got the stoic personality from Mom. Funny that stoicism doesn't show up on the internet.
But anyway I'm one of those books that shouldn't be judged! BTW, the Cherokee were one of the five civilized tribes that inhabited a large part of the southern US as far west as Oklahoma. Right in my families old stomping grounds, Tennessee!
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That's the wacky thing about my wife and I. I'm a stoic Injun that doesn't talk much and she's a dynamic, passionate Italian. We're quite a pair of racial stereotypes.
 
That's hilarious! Now I'd ride with that and ask all sorts of questions to get a good laugh, especially after i made everyone else aware. He opened the can of worms.. [emoji12]
 
Not stolen valor but I would have called him on it right then and there. Then I'd watch him squirm.
 
snubbyfan said:
Don't nobody mention this to that clown. I get enough people coming up to me and telling me they're 1/16 Cherokee. They're usually blond and blue eyed and it's always Cherokee.
Them Cherokees musta been one heck of a busy tribe. Now I do know some people of Cherokee descent but they look it despite having very light skin.
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Those Cherokee cheekbones are a dead give away! I have a buddy who is 1/8 and he and all his kids have the exact same cheekbones his Great-Great Cherokee Grandma had.:D My only claim to fame via my ancestors is my Great Grandaddy used to be a moonshiner in West By God Virginia back during prohibition, he used to tell me stories about shooting at revenuers.
 
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feralmerril said:
Hate to get technical, I believe there was a book title something like "Son of morning star" that said he had a indian mistress that had a son by him.
I have no idea if it was truth, fiction or just rumor. I know that him and his wife libby didnt have children.

Kind of reminds me of the story of some general that retired and wanted to keep his orderly. Told him he wanted to keep things just like when they were active. The first morning the orderly came in and woke the general up, slapped the generals wife on the butt and said its back to the village for you baby!
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Hi:
There is a TV Movie from several years ago, "Son Of Morning Star" that was made from the book.
 
I read a book called The Custer Reader by Paul Andrew Hutton a few years back. It's an anthology of articles written about him by his contemporaries with some commentary by the Author/Editor.

One of the things he (Hutton) postulates in the book is that contrary to the popular idea that Custer was trying for one big victory so he could win the Presidency, Custer had no interest in Politics and was trying to get a big victory in an effort to get his General's stars back.
 
It is certainly not a stretch of the imagination for Custer to have had VD...pretty common among soldiers of every era prior to penicillin.

The discussions about having Native American ancestors really got hot when people wanted a share of casino profits.

Native American "wives" were common on the frontier from the earliest arrival of Europeans. It's almost impossible to trace because people tended to deny and cover it up until recently.

Elizabeth Warren did herself more harm than good by playing the "race card" to get preferential treatment. I'm embarrassed for her.
 
kimporter said:
...tells us when he joined up he got to choose what unit he wanted because his ggg-grandfather was a general in the civil war...
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Why do guys tell stories like this? They are so easily verified (read debunked) that it makes no sense to me. Do they really think we'll be impressed by it?

Honestly, I pity anyone who is so lonely they have to make up stories of military exploits.
 
Why does Cherokee have such a cachet ? What's wrong with Sioux or Cheyenne or Pawnee ? Don't recall too many people here in the East claiming Mohawk or Iroquois or Oneida ancestry.
 
My wife tells me she has Blackfoot in her lineage. She is blond and blue eyed, but her dad has darkish skin and straight black hair. She doesn't tell people that to try to gain some kind of status. In fact, she doesn't tell anyone ever.

For some reason it came up with my neighbor and he told us to check it out and get some kind of government entitlement for it. She would not do that and neither would I. Heck, I don't even know if Blackfoot is a real tribe/sect/family group.
 
Rastoff said:
My wife tells me she has Blackfoot in her lineage. She is blond and blue eyed, but her dad has darkish skin and straight black hair. She doesn't tell people that to try to gain some kind of status. In fact, she doesn't tell anyone ever.

For some reason it came up with my neighbor and he told us to check it out and get some kind of government entitlement for it. She would not do that and neither would I. Heck, I don't even know if Blackfoot is a real tribe/sect/family group.
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Nihtsi siksika. I'm Blackfoot and the last time I looked I was real.
 
Rastoff said:
Why do guys tell stories like this? They are so easily verified (read debunked) that it makes no sense to me.
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It's because (IMO) they don't know enough about their topic to realize how easy they are to debunk
 
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