Ranger98
US Veteran
It is my "Go To" ammo for shooting in my .22 revolvers.It seems to have the least problems in regards to extraction from the cylinder.
Issues with Federal Champion?
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dannybot
Member
I have been using that Federal Champion ammo since last summet in my M&P 15-22. It has proven 100% reliable for some time now, using it for steel challenge and a couple 3 gun matches.
I liberally lube the bolt, chamber, the magazines through the windows the follower travels in, and the nose of the bullets by spraying with RemOil.
I used Winchester 333/555's prior to that, and had a jam, FTE, FTF, stove pipe or double feed about once per stage with stuff.
Remington Golden bullets don't feed well for me either.
I liberally lube the bolt, chamber, the magazines through the windows the follower travels in, and the nose of the bullets by spraying with RemOil.
I used Winchester 333/555's prior to that, and had a jam, FTE, FTF, stove pipe or double feed about once per stage with stuff.
Remington Golden bullets don't feed well for me either.
Majorlk
Member
Very bad move. All you are doing is attracting dust and powder debris to build up in the action. Polymer parts in the magazines need no lubrication. As long as the inside of the upper is kept clean, there is no need for "liberally" lubing the bolt body, either. As for oil on the bullet nose ... well, that is just plain dumb, IMHO. The 15-22 is not an AR and does not need to be run wet. Just the opposite is the norm.
Rick_A
Member
I like the stuff. There's been one dud in several hundred rounds, and the cases are stronger than CCI which can get dented when loading some mags to capacity.
dannybot
Member
I've heard that time and time again from folks who aren't getting their .22's to run.
And now you're hearing it time and time again from folks who do get their .22 to run by NOT lubing everything in the 15-22.
Majorlk
Member
Well, considering I've shot more than a few hundred thousand rounds of .22 LR over the years, I think I might be on to something.
photoracer
Member
I am a competition shooter and I have 10's of thousands of rounds thru both my 15-22s in the last 4 years. One thing any serious competition shooter will tell you about a .22 is lube it as little as possible it runs a lot better the drier you can run it. I don't even clean my guns before at least 2k rounds and the only part of my 15-22s and Browning Buckmarks that get lube is the bolt/slide rails. All I do with the barrels is pass a dry boresnake thru them. The bullet lube takes care of the barrels.
When I started as a match shooter I did lube them more. I found I had to run 50-100 rounds thru them after cleaning to get them to run the way I wanted (mostly the pistols). A few pros convinced me to shoot them drier and I found that I no longer had to pre shoot them before a match to keep them reliable. The pro shooter's axiom is "if you see oil on the gun it has too much". I do oil my centerfire raceguns and ARs more but hardly more often.
Re: OP. This past Friday I saw some Champions at a local range. They kindly traded it to me in return for Remington Golden Bullets and Winchester 333's. The Champion ammo had been dropped, the plastic cases of the 100's were broken, the cans of the bulk packed was bent. Fine. I fired 50 rounds in my 18-3... shot a 248/250 on a B-27. Chambers easily in the 18-3, very little fouling or firing residue. Shot 150 rounds in a Marvel .22 LR 1911 conversion. Shot 245/250 with some shooting using my left-hand. Function was outstanding. Perfect ammunition in every way. Would and will buy all of it that I can find. It is wonderful stuff!
gmiller0737
Member
My 15-22 shoots fine with those I have fired over 1000 rounds of those through it
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