It just messes up the clean lines of the revolver...

[semperfi71]

My M58, M10, M&P 5 inch, M&P 6 inch, 4 inch Heavy Duty, 5 inch Heavy Duty, M640, M13-3, and Brazillian all shoot to point of aim windage wise and some are on elevation wise and some shoot a bit high, the most is 3 inches high.

All shot at 25 yards from a rest.

BUT I had to do a lot of bullet and powder testing to get them there.

In my personal opinion [worth nothing nowhere] Smith and Wesson was the first handgun manufacturer to design an adjustable sighted handgun that looked good. Many of the adjustable sighted handguns look like the bad afterthought of a drunk gun engineer.

 

[smith revolver cop]

I also like the look of fixed-sight revolvers... carried a 65 on duty for years (still my favorite!), currently carry a 442 off-duty, and used to carry a 640-1 (but my current department restricts us to .38spcl, so I went to a lighter gun). My prettiest fixed-sight, though, is my 58!

 

[kdm2]

I'd rather shoot adjustable sights, not because I adjust them but they are easier to see. But for looks nothing beats a pre war military and police.

 

[Stainz]

Sights don't bother me. Fixed on a S&W simply means you have to find the right ammo/distance for the elevation - the windage is usually spot on. I prefer adjustable due to the utlility.

Now, full lugs... big barf here. Full shroud? Really big barf! I like partial - even tapered - lugs.

Of course, my 625JM, JM PC 627 V-Comp, and 696 are exceptions... they are just too much fun! I did put off my 686+ purchase until that '04 'Stocking Dealer Exclusive', a 5" h-l, came out... got that puppy. I guess variety is a necessity?

Stainz

 

[flop-shank]

Originally posted by Allen-frame:
Only thing better than a red headed woman in leather ,is a red headed woman you've gotten out of her leather.

Now there's some memories, her name was June ,I was 22 ,and ,,

Did you guys have to get me started!?


Nicksterdemus , I can tell right away you're a troublemaker. I like you already ,



Regards ,,,AL

+1 Peg Bundy was my ultimate fantasy back in the late eighties. Damn, I wanted to take her for a test drive.

(note the red face I would have had

) Nick, I'm drinking whiskey and you got me going.

 

[powerkicker]

I like fixed sights on snubbies. If the barrel is over 3", I want adjustble sights.

 

[wheelgun1958]

I'm not fond of the adjustables either. I must admit however that I do own a 629 a 686 and a model 15. My fixed sight revolvers outnumber them though. I did get rid of a 60-4 because I didn't like the sights.

 

[shawn mccarver]

Originally posted by Andy Griffith:
Shawn,


So...do you own like the fixed sight guns?

It depends on the use. Fixed sights are fine on the J frame two inch for pocket carry. The M&Ps look fine, even the original 520 and 58.

However, there are many uses that call for the ability to adjust the sights easily to point of aim for the ammo and adjustable sights allow me to change the ammo and dial in the revolver if I decide to change the load used.

Thus, fixed sights are useful for certain purposes, and a disadvantage for other purposes. It all depends on the use to which the revolver will be put.

 

[rich5674]

Agreed on Redheads and fixed sights except... When this 3 inch barrel craze got started I aquired a M65 LadySmith, shot it once with the open sights, couldnt see the sights, sold it for a 3 inch 66 with adjustables, Much better sight picture. I'm well into middle age my doctor told me, I didnt know, I was still enjoying a happy childhood

 

[feralmerril]

Ever wonder why the military traditionaly used fixed sights on handguns but adjustable on rifles? If they hit POA at a known distance fine! However, many of us try different bullet weights etc. On adjustable after working with the gun I seem to notice on most guns I have the blade fairly far off center to the right, and fixed seem to shoot to the left for my eyes. I had a gold bead on a 1917 once. I really liked it. I just dont like to use a 6 oclock hold either. My 1st good handgun many years ago was a fixed sight single six. I done better with that then most since. Whatever you use, it really comes down to knowing where they hit and useing a tad of kentucy windage. My worst (but nice) problem is haveing TOO many guns! If you are shooting just one regularly, in the real world when you have a collection of 30 handguns and 15 rifles and sometimes a number of years go by before you get to the same gun again you just cant remember how it hit and probley with different ammo if you do! Beware of the one gun man used to apply to me!
I have a winchester 94 I bought new in about 1955 when I was 14. I immediately put on a williams foolproof, and to THIS day of my 15 or so scoped rifles, I trust where that gun will hit if I had to grab a gun right now!
The same for a .22 rifle. I own a winchester model 61 with open sights that I have shot since 7 years old. It was dads. I also own a fine scoped winchester 63. If I had to win a bet in the next few minuets, I would grab the 61! I love the many guns I have, but I wont kid myself, I would probley do better if I held things down to just one .22 rifle, one big game rifle, one shotgun, a pocket pistol, one .22 hand gun and one good .357 or .44 special. I aint gonna though.

 

[BillCa]

My service revolvers from the 70's all had adjustable sights with the exception of the M58 and M65. All are/were good honest guns. I don't have a problem with adjustable sights on 4-inch guns, especially .357's.

Where I DON'T like adjustable sights is on snubbies intended for CCW. Such guns are CQB arms where 25 yards is a long shot. For example, the most recent Model 25 has adjustable sights, even with a snubby 3" barrel, which just looks wrong to me.
Here's the S&W Model 25 snubbie...

Here's a photochopped version I'd prefer to own;

The fixed sight model is trimmer and cleaner looking IMHO.

The Model of 1917 was reintro'd with a 6" barrel, but one of the popular mods in the 70's was to "bob" the barrel into a CCW piece. They might have sold more by adding another barrel length. Like this;

Though I'd bob the barrel a bit more to this;

And they could have made a shorter Model 22 with the underlug. Just shortening the barrel gives us a serious looking piece;

But reducing the weight of the underlug a tad makes it look better (I think).

Comments?

 

[Nicksterdemus]

I like the last example w/radius angled shroud.

Does that make sense?