J Frame for pocket carry

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i am giving up my atraction for 380 pocket pistols, want a j frame for this job. i need your opinion for a reliable 5 shor for sure pocket gun. Would you but one of the new guns or look for a seasoned veteran. i hear a lot of bad things about new revolvers that it makes me suspect to trust them. I hear a lot of troubling talk about new guns that it makes me wary. I have Ls and Ks and autos, but no Js.
 
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i am giving up my atraction for 380 pocket pistols, want a j frame for this job. i need your opinion for a reliable 5 shor for sure pocket gun. Would you but one of the new guns or look for a seasoned veteran. i hear a lot of bad things about new revolvers that it makes me suspect to trust them. I hear a lot of troubling talk about new guns that it makes me wary. I have Ls and Ks and autos, but no Js.

Any Centennial ought to serve you well.....model 642, 442, 640, 49,,,,the list goes on....
 
Not a thing in the world wrong with the new 442/642s.

I've got a 642 and it makes a great pocket carry.

They are making them now with or without the lock if the lock bothers you.

It's a machine and every once in a while one slips out that is not right--Smith and Wesson has terrific customer service in the unlikely event that there is a problem.

May seem like heresy to say it, but not all the old ones were perfect either...
 
My pocket carry is a 442 no lock. In a decent holster, you'll forget it's there.
 
I am 5'11" and 165. I wear jeans 99.9% of the time. This is always in my right front pocket and I have N-E-V-E-R been called on it.

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My M340PD lives in my left front pants pocket all the time. It is rarely my only carry gun, usually a backup to something bigger on my right (strong side) hip.
I literally do forget it's there. Centennials, especially the Airweight or Airlight models are perfect for pocket carry.
Jim
 
In the pocket in a pocket holster I'd go along with the 642 (with moonclips and no internal lock), 638 or their blued counterparts. I'm also a fan of the Bodyguard 38 with its integral laser. I carry either on a rotating basis and they are both reliable and both will handle Plus P ammunition.

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For traditionalists, Molded In Metal (MIM) parts, although perfectly serviceable, are something to be avoided, never mind the polymer covered steel and allow of the BG38. You can get the 642 without an internal lock and the BG38 doesn't have an internal lock. Both revolvers require practice and attention to shoot accurately.
 
I'd vote for seasoned veteran. Not a thing wrong with the newer guns I'm sure, but ...... my near mint Model 37 has a certain "cool factor" missing in newer guns for me. And .... you don't have to wait for it to get older so it may be more likely to appreciate in value.
 
Conicidentally, I've spent the day carrying a .380 pistol I'd considered carrying on a road trip requiring discretion. My subjective perception ( I didn't shoot anyone with it) left me with a feeling of inadequacy; I'm now planning to take something else on my road trip, most likely a J frame .38.

Whether I would buy a new S&W or a used one is a moot point, since I already have a lifetime supply. If this were not the case, I would not buy a factory new S&W. The last one I purchased a decade ago, while servicable, had the aesthetics of a cap pistol and appeared to be finished in a substance similar to congealed nasal mucus. From the frequent complaints about new S&Ws I've read on this board, it appears quality has declined since my last acquistion. By contrast, the S&Ws I purchased new three decades ago or more, and the used weapons of that period I've more recently acquired have my total confidence.

DISCLAIMER: The late Charles 'Skeeter' Skelton once wrote of an old desert rat who told him auto pistols and double action revolvers were bunkum, and that the perfect defense weapon was the single action revolver. It's been my life's observation that shootists extol the weapons of their formative periods...and I'm no exception.
 
My M340PD lives in my left front pants pocket all the time. It is rarely my only carry gun, usually a backup to something bigger on my right (strong side) hip.
I literally do forget it's there. Centennials, especially the Airweight or Airlight models are perfect for pocket carry.
Jim

I'll second the 340PD... So light you forget about it.
 
I have five j frames I sort of rotate out for pocket carry. Today I carried a Model 60 from about 1974. I have an old Model 36 rb flatlatch, a 36 sb, a 36-1 with 3" barrel, and a 37 with 3" barrel I carry infrequently. I load the all-steel guns with BB 158 grain +P hollow point w/gas checks. I have fired all of them with the BB ammo, and they all shoot to poa at 5 yards. In my opinion, the BB makes the 2" j frames a very viable defense gun, and they aren't that bad far as recoil. I have tried to carry larger guns, but I always come back to the j-frame.

Any gun you use for pocket carry is going to take a beating. I clean mine regularly, taking the sideplate off and cleaning the cylinder/yoke assembly maybe twice a year to get the junk out of it.
 
The S&W model 642 is my 24/7 gun now. I highly recommend it. You do need to practice shooting it regularly if you expect to be a good shot with it.
 
i carry a 442 in a galco horsehide front pocket, and a 638 in a galco combat master on my hip. one ammo, two guns. i carry a 2x2x2 on the belt, and a speed loader from 5 star firearms in a cargo pocket. i feel like that should do the job in all cities, except kandahar or bahgdad... as stated the airweights are a handfull with full 38+p's, practice is a must.
 
a S&W model 640 or model 649, pre lock, will work just fine for pocket carry.
 
I am at the point where I always have a 642 nearby or on me, they are easy to carry and easy to shoot.
 
Since 1974, this Model 60 has been my pocket companion. After all these years and trying every imaginable grip, I settled on the most basic setup for CC use:
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After handling a friend's 340, I got the hankering for an Airweight. When the good deals on NO-LOCK 442 came along, I jumped on it. Great little revolver. But the rubber stocks just don't work for me carrying concealed. As my muscle memory is well conditioned to the M60's configuration, it took little time to "retro" my new 442 to my favored setup:

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IMHO; I prefer steel over alloy - not that there's anything at all wrong with the alloy guns.

For the price and quality; my choice was a 36 no dash with some minor finish issues for $289 OTD. Cleaned up very nicely. Extremely accurate. Only downside is that, according to S&W, I'm not supposed to be shooting +P out of it.
 

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I trust my life to this one everyday...

Once a week I use a air duster to blow the fuzz out of it and run a swab down the bore...
 

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My 24/7 carry has been an IL-equipped 642-2 for most of the last five years. Stoked with +P 158gr LHPSWC's (Remington R38S12), it shoots to POA at 7-12yd. It's close enough with my 125gr JHP homebrew plinkers to hit the SPC targets at 7-15yd without a miss, too (Never mind the time...). I've probably shot 1,000+ plinkers and 400+ of the +P 158gr LHPSWC's - most from GA Arms(Cheaper - ballistically equivalent to the Remi's.). It's CCW occasional use pocket carry predecessor, my .44 Special 296, continues to see some carry - in larger pockets and in the woods. Both are shown in their respective R. Mika pocket holster:

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Lately, I've been carrying this new 2 1/8" 632 Pro in a 642's R. Mika pocket holster - loaded with Speer 115gr Gold Dots in .327 Federal Magnum. A bit heavier than the 642 (23 vs 15 oz), the mass is appreciated - it has recoil, noise, and flash! Another J-frame pocket protector.

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The beauty of the J-frame, whether a .22 rimfire, .327 Federal Magnum, or .38 - they are small enough for pocket EDC - and dependable enough, too. That 296 and it's .44 Specials are nice, but it was seldom carried.

Stainz
 
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