J frame trigger kits - effect on SA mode

[Kahrma9]

My new 60 Pro Series J Frame has an almost scary light SA pull, and a horrendous DA. I've read lots about the available spring kits for J frames but I'm concerned about the effect they might have on the SA pull.

So, what's the story? Do the various kits not affect the SA pull? If they do, would installing just the rebound spring improve the DA pull without affecting the SA pull?

Thanks,
B.H.

 

[WR Moore]

Short answer, no. If your DA pull is so offensive, please include details on why. Gritty, hard spots, weight of pull etc. You might want to have someone who knows what they're doing inside a S&W round gun look at it.

 

[Bill In Texas]

A while back I installed an Apex Duty, Carry Spring Kit in my model 60 Pro Series. It did effect the SA pull, made it really light, about a 2 lb. pull according to my trigger pull gage.

That's the down side though, and since I rarely shoot my wheelguns single action anyway, it doesn't bother me. The DA action is awesome! It's about 8 lbs. if I remember correctly, and nice and smooth. Hope this helps!

 

[Cynergy12]

Thanks, Bill in Texas. Sort of what I'd assumed the effect on SA pull would be.

I agree with your opinion that single action pull wt. is sort of a non-issue with snubbies. In a self defense situation I can't imagine taking the time to cock the hammer, and I don't think anyone is going to use J-frames for bullseye shooting.

In response to WR Moore's post, the problem with the DA pull is the 12+ lbs it registers on both my trigger pull gauges. The trigger action seems smooth with no grittiness or roughness. I suppose as a "Pro" series it might have received some additional polishing at the factory.

 

[H Richard]

12 lbs is not unusual,especially for a J Frame. The smaller guns tend to be more reliable with a little heavier trigger.

 

[mauiblue]

I also installed the Apex trigger kit on my Model 638 years ago. Much more lighter pull on double action and single action. Makes the gun more pleasurable to shoot.

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[Chukar60]

I cannot speak for those who shoot J frames with fixed sights, but all my J's have adjustable sights and the SA trigger is an issue for me.
My 60-10 got lots of range time shooting steel plates. One round was always shot at a plate at about 20 yards using SA.
As I use it a lot at the ranch we manage, occasionally I have shots at varmints at 25 yards and a little further. Single action is very useful for those situations.
Not all J frames are used strictly for SD purposes.

 

[F75gunslinger]

As far as I am aware ,double action pulls the trigger through it's entire travel. So a reduced power trigger return and main spring would make double action pulls lighter.But in single action the trigger is already all the way through it's travel and resting on the sear.When you pull the trigger all you are doing is releasing the hammer from the sear. I can't see how anything other than altering the sear would do very much as far as lightening the single action trigger.

 

[texmex]

I have had a 60-10 3 inch for many years. I originally got it to wear as a backup gun when elk hunting in Colorado. So light and compact, you almost forget you have it on. Lots of power for it's size. The bonus was it is easy to shoot well even with full power 357 magnums. Very comforting on those midnight jaunts to the privy. Pretty good security blanket in or under your sleeping bag under the stars. I shot it so well that became my plain clothes arm and I even put together a uniform rig for light duty extra jobs. It has put quite a few ptarmigan and other small game in the pot at our camp.

 

[Joe4d]

Key word I saw was "new" Go shot it a few hundred times it wil wear in some. Not sure the intended use but if this was a self defense gun after any action or spring job Id run a box of russian ammo through it.
If it will light those primers off it will light off about anything.

 

[usafcct]

I also installed an Apex tactical/duty kit in a J frame 640-1 357M. It reduced DA trigger pull from 12+ ( trigger scale maxed at 12 ) to a very pleasing 8 lbs without any effect on reliabillity. Would definitely recomend this kit for any modern J frame, with the DA trigger pull they currently leave the factory with.

 

[RMFnLA]

Spring kits do affect SA, just not as much as DA.
Lots of times you just have to try stuff.
The nice thing about spring kits is they are easy to undo.

 

[smoothshooter]

I cannot speak for those who shoot J frames with fixed sights, but all my J's have adjustable sights and the SA trigger is an issue for me.
My 60-10 got lots of range time shooting steel plates. One round was always shot at a plate at about 20 yards using SA.
As I use it a lot at the ranch we manage, occasionally I have shots at varmints at 25 yards and a little further. Single action is very useful for those situations.
Not all J frames are used strictly for SD purposes.

Could you give us some details on loads used, and their effectiveness at diferent ranges on the various critters you have gotten.