K-22 Hand Not turning Cylinder

Fuzzyman88

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Hello, I have, what I believe to be a 1952 K-22 Serial # K129xxx, and the hand does not turn the cylinder. Is there anything I need to look for so I can get this fixed? I do have pictures that I will post later if that helps. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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I dont know much, but on my 1967 model 15-2 there is a spring in the trigger that keeps the ?"hand"? with forward pressure throughout the motion of the trigger.
 
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I dont know much, but on my 1967 model 15-2 there is a spring in the trigger that keeps the ?"hand"? with forward pressure throughout the motion of the trigger.

That is what I have read, but I have found two different types of springs and I am confused on which spring I need to get it functioning properly again.
 
Does the hand fail to engage the ratchet, as GunarSailors asks (replace spring), or is the cylinder jamming up on the forcing cone (Check: BC Gap, endshake, build-up of crud). We need a little more info.
 
Does the hand fail to engage the ratchet, as GunarSailors asks (replace spring), or is the cylinder jamming up on the forcing cone (Check: BC Gap, endshake, build-up of crud). We need a little more info.

Sorry, the cylinder works perfectly, it will rotate when the K-22 is pointed level or point downward, the cylinder doesn't jam up at all.
 
Welcome to the forum.

These videos may help if you haven't taken one apart before. Some of the commentary is ****, but the main error is that the two screws indicated as identical, are not! The one that retains the yoke is 'fitted' and therefore specific to that location:

SMITH & WESSON MODEL 10 SERVICE REVOLVER PART 1 - YouTube
Note: The part referred to in the video as the crane is actually the yoke in S&W terms. Crane is the Colt name for that part.
SMITH & WESSON MODEL 10 SERVICE REVOLVER PART 1 - YouTube

SMITH & WESSON MODEL 10 PART 2 - YouTube
SMITH & WESSON MODEL 10 PART 2 - YouTube
 
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Just as a check on the hand spring, take off the sideplate. You may also have to remove the safety bar. Push the hand forward toward the cylinder and pull the trigger to cycle the action. If the hand engages and rotates the cylinder, then the torsion spring or torsion bar, depending on what design you have, may be the problem. Those parts are inside the trigger assembly so the trigger will need to be removed to work on them. Sometimes on the older guns with a torsion bar and coil spring, the spring loses engagement with the forward end of the bar. Over time, it may also become distorted or bent. Just remove it from inside the trigger and straighten it. You may have to stretch it slightly to straighten and restore tension. Don't pull from the ends. Instead, roll the spring on a flat surface while pressing it with your finger tips along the whole length. It only has to stretch slightly to restore tension. If it is broken, try ebay for a spring from a Victory revolver.

If you have the new pigtail-type torsion spring, it is likely broken. You should be able to get a replacement from Brownell's or MidwayUSA.
 
I have the same problem with a K22 that I bought last week. When I got into it, I found that the spring is broken. Part #070400000. I have looked at Numrich and Brownells and they are out of stock. The only one on Ebay is a #070800000. Does anyone know where I could find a new hand torsion spring for my K22?
 
Try Jack First Gun Parts,They probably have one.Be prepared to spend about $15-$20 shipped for it.They charge $8 shipping per order no matter what.....
 
. . . Does anyone know where I could find a new hand torsion spring for my K22?

The torsion spring on ebay is for a J-frame and you need one for a K-frame. As suggested by 05CarbonDRZ, try Jack First Gun Parts . . . he is a reliable S&W parts vendor who deserves our support.

If for some reason you still aren't able to find one, send me a PM with your mailing address and I'll send the K-frame spring . . . . we can't allow an K-22 to remain out of commission. Simply make an equivalent donation to the forum (see toolbar at top of forum page).

Russ

edit to add: same offer to OP Fuzzyman88 if he determines he needs one as well.
 
Unload the revolver. Leave the cylinder open. Hold the revolver barrel up toward the ceiling. Using the blade of a very small screwdriver, push the hand back from its window in the frame. It should "smartly" spring back up so that it is at the very edge of its window. If there is no spring tension, then gravity will cause it to fall out of its place in its window in the frame.
 
Thank you, linde, for the offer, I will probably take you up on it. Here are pictures of the inside of my K22. Hopefully all I will need is the spring. I also included a picture of the hand of the revolver.
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Here is the picture of the spring I just removed from my K-22, looks like i definitely need a new spring.

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I was just going to post there's a spring that actuates it.

I have a in-house stock of gun parts. Firing pins, extractors, springs where I can have them on hand if something fails. I have pistol and rifle barrels too. My thoughts are now to stock s&w parts. I wonder if s&w offers a parts kit or a service kit?

My feeling is if one spring is bad how good are the others?
 
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When I repair my equipment I always order two parts if there small and affordable. Then if something broke that day it was up and running again before I went to bed.

Glad to see you ordered two springs.
 
Hi All; I just had the same problem on a 1948 K22. Turns out the hand (on the spring loaded early models) needs to be installed in the trigger first and under tension. Drop the longest pin in ever so slightly, push the hand spring lever down inside the trigger with a roll pin, and push the hand home. The hand will then be under very apparent tension and then it is ready to be installed in the K22 housing.It is not a very obvious thing to see so study it.
 
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