Knew it was coming sooner or later ammo control

[gm272gs]

There are certainly a lot of politicians who are afraid of all the gun owners in the U.S.

That's the point of the 2nd Amendment, I believe.

 

[therevjay]

Since when does a NICS check cost anybody anything?? It's a phone call, usually only a few minutes. No fee.

Lucky you. Here (OR) a NICS check is $10

 

[COL Jagdog]

Now, wait a second, I'm confused -- that lady in Colorado said that if I bought clips, they came with pre-loaded bullets. So, as long as they don't control pre-loaded bullet clips, then everything is ok, right??

Asked Dorothy (while in Oz) and Alice (while in Wonderland)

 

[Bamabred]

It's so obvious that ammo regulation will reduce gun deaths. If people don't buy much ammo, then they won't practice. If people don't practice, then they won't hit their target. Makes perfect sense.

 

[laskt9]

It's so obvious that ammo regulation will reduce gun deaths. If people don't buy much ammo, then they won't practice. If people don't practice, then they won't hit their target. Makes perfect sense.

Pretty sure the police in Boston showed practice doesnt make perfect last night. How many shots did they fire at white hat??

 

[blujax01]

HELLO!!!

Not one to let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory but:

Has anyone come up with a shred of evidence that this is a real thing?

 

[dogdoc]

I cannot find anything on this. I do not believe this. Provide proof not rumors

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

If we don't rise up and fight this by the time they get to banning pressure cookers, there will be no one left to fight that.

 

[yaktamer]

HELLO!!!

Not one to let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory but:

Has anyone come up with a shred of evidence that this is a real thing?

It must be true, it's on the interwebs.

 

[BJoe]

I am SORRY to say I was right. I been howling about this for 10 years. The American people would not approve of repealing the Second Amendment, and would vote OUT any who voted for it.

How to get around this? Ban foreign ammo imports, that won't be hard, then tax every round sold.

Same result but the politicians still get re-elected.

I been stockpiling ammo for 8-10 years a little at a time. I shoot every week and can continue to shoot, at this pace, for another 10 years. It's also a great investment. Ammo NEVER goes down and if you need cash, as I have a few times in the past just sell 1K.

 

[boatbum101]

Typical liberal knee jerk reaction . Ban something after the horse is out the barn . As a grumpy old bullseye competitor I can't afford to shoot factory ammo . Besides my handloads group so much better @ 50yds than even $1 a round Federal or Atlanta Arms match ammo . Heck I even handload for my hunting rifles .

 

[mc5aw]

Let's just ban criminals and criminal behavior, then call it day.

 

[foxeye]

I am sorry I did not think about posting the link. I swear though it was an article in the online Washington Post, and will continue to look for it.

 

[oldRoger]

It is true but I think it is Sen. F. Lautenberg D-NJ. This surfaced as soon as it was suggested that the Boston Bombs were powered by blackpowder.
Lautenberg keeps this sort of thing in his drawer.
Use the search terms;
Lautenberg restricting ammunition components
You will find it.
Baucus is too careful to sponsor such legislation, if it comes up though, depend upon his vote for it.

 

[Nframecollector]

Back in the 70's Patrick Moynihan proposed a 1000% tax on reloading components. I figured it was only a matter of time till they tried it again. At one time the same people were trying to get shooting ranges called toxic waste dumps!

 

[Texas Star]

if you can't control the guns then control the ammo ...

I believe that 's how it's done in Portugal. I read that they have a limit of one or two boxes of pistol ammo a year.

May be those little Euro boxes of 25, too. Probably has little effect on crime, but many nations are more worried about revolutions.

In Brazil, even most cops are limited to .38 Special power, let alone civilians. (Our Brazilian members have posted that with an expensive collectors license, more powerful guns are allowed.)

 

[baldeagle8888]

I remember both of these and it is more proof that with any event, there is a politican in the wings proposing a new law.

I again state, all the feel good comments being made about the anti-gun bills being pulled and the mistaken belief that all is now well, the vote was in reality, just a one vote difference. All the talk about the house Not going along is just conjecture at this point in time and I'm affraid that some will let their guard down and we could still get blind sided.
Anyone that fails to see the possiblity of Senate bills concerning new taxes an/or other restrictions on ammo fail to know history and with what happened in Boston.

baldeagle8888

 

[Doug627]

There is no charge for an NICS background check. No one gets billed for these checks. As to restricting the amount of ammunition or preventing us from getting any, or taxing it to the point that people cannot affordm it, the United States Supreme Court, as it exists today, would most likely rule "that the right to keep and bear arms" means nothing without ammunition and, therefore, "unreasonable" taxes or limitations on ammunition ownership would be unconstitutional. What is "unreasonable" would be the issue. If there is a change in the make-up of the Court, we could be looking at a wholesale loss of the Second Amendment. Years ago, the Supreme Court recognized that the power to tax is the power to destroy. I will agree that it is getting pretty ugly out there. Things have occurred that I never thought I would ever see.

 

[El Bombardero]

Typical liberal knee jerk reaction

Speaking of knee jerk reactions, still no evidence that this is real or not. No link provided.

Sometimes I'm embarrassed by who is on my side in the gun debate. More than sometimes.

 

[El Bombardero]

This is one of the only things I could find on Baucus' recent actions

Baucus voting against gun control measure

Baucus said Montanans have told him "loud and clear that they are overwhelmingly opposed to new gun control laws." The six-term senator says the Obama administration needs to do a better job of enforcing current laws.

 

[El Bombardero]

Amazing that without even a shred of evidence that most of you jumped straight into your tired rhetoric about gun control, much of it designed to be clever but empty. And yet if you even suspect the Left of doing this, you freak out.

Without a link, people should treat this story as strictly hearsay, which so far it appears to be. Calm down and use the left side of your brain.

If you are going to defend your position, at least try not to look like a fool doing it. It gives too much ammunition to the other side. And that is the last thing we need right now. The anti-gun people should not be difficult to defeat using actual facts. We don't need to resort to screaming and jumping up and down.

 

[El Bombardero]

I remember both of these and it is more proof that with any event, there is a politican in the wings proposing a new law.

I again state, all the feel good comments being made about the anti-gun bills being pulled and the mistaken belief that all is now well, the vote was in reality, just a one vote difference. All the talk about the house Not going along is just conjecture at this point in time and I'm affraid that some will let their guard down and we could still get blind sided.
Anyone that fails to see the possiblity of Senate bills concerning new taxes an/or other restrictions on ammo fail to know history and with what happened in Boston.

baldeagle8888

and one of those NO votes was Baucus.

 

[El Bombardero]

I am sorry I did not think about posting the link. I swear though it was an article in the online Washington Post, and will continue to look for it.

You sure it wasn't the Washington Times?

 

[foxeye]

It is true but I think it is Sen. F. Lautenberg D-NJ. This surfaced as soon as it was suggested that the Boston Bombs were powered by blackpowder.
Lautenberg keeps this sort of thing in his drawer.
Use the search terms;
Lautenberg restricting ammunition components
You will find it.
Baucus is too careful to sponsor such legislation, if it comes up though, depend upon his vote for it.

The more I look and the more I think about it, it just may have been Lautenburg. But I could have sworn it said Baucus, and it was an article in the WPost. But the one article in ammoland with the pic of the spilled powder looks kind of familiar. Sorry if I caused any alarm.

 

[El Bombardero]

Senator Frank R. Lautenberg

It looks like it has already been defeated as a part of the gun bill that died in the Senate. So you can all calm down and go back to your telescreens and mac&cheese.

 

[baldeagle8888]

Senator Frank R. Lautenberg

It looks like it has already been defeated as a part of the gun bill that died in the Senate. So you can all calm down and go back to your telescreens and mac&cheese.

Well, sticks and stones may break my bones but yada, yada, yada.

Maybe you should go back and read a little history, about 50 years worth before spouting off your mouth.
If you would read the entire OP's and mine, you might not look so foolish.

baldeagle8888

 

[El Bombardero]

Well, sticks and stones may break my bones but yada, yada, yada.

Maybe you should go back and read a little history, about 50 years worth before spouting off your mouth.
If you would read the entire OP's and mine, you might not look so foolish.

baldeagle8888

Que? What do you mean?

 

[baldeagle8888]

Just what I said.

Go back to 1964 and then follow the gun bills and/or laws that have been passed and/or proposed. ANYONE that does will see that ammo and/or restrictions have been proposed many times andjust because most have not become law, that's not to say they can't and/or become law.

With the way politicans play games about voting yea or ney on either bills or amendments does NOT necessariy convey their desires. Check out which ones are up for the next election. Also remember who chaired and authored Obamacare.

baldeagle8888

 

[El Bombardero]

Just what I said.

Go back to 1964 and then follow the gun bills and/or laws that have been passed and/or proposed. ANYONE that does will see that ammo and/or restrictions have been proposed many times andjust because most have not become law, that's not to say they can't and/or become law.

With the way politicans play games about voting yea or ney on either bills or amendments does NOT necessariy convey their desires. Check out which ones are up for the next election. Also remember who chaired and authored Obamacare.

baldeagle8888

So you're defending your hysteria, despite being shown that it was unfounded?

 

[baldeagle8888]

So you're defending your hysteria, despite being shown that it was unfounded?

I fail to see any hysteria in any of my posts. If by making statements that "watch the politicans" or "ammo restrictions might be next", I fail to understand you'll hysteria and multiple posts ridiculing other posters. Last I heard, freedom of speak is still permitted.

baldeagle8888