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sureshotbob
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We can only hope and pray.
But do you really trust Mr. Un.
But do you really trust Mr. Un.
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Kurusu
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We can only hope and pray.
But do you really trust Mr. Un.
I'll sitck to the hope and pray.
For the rest. "Wait and see" is my motto.
HOUSTON RICK
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You give peace a chance, I will cover your back in case that does not work out.
S&WIowegan
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This is the latest ploy by the Kim family to get bailed out by their enemies. They've done it several times over the years. Every photo coming out of North Korea shows very thin people with ONE exception. His people are starving to death and need aid immediately. So he does all this war-mongering to scare us, then says he wants to make peace. He gets the aid and breaks all promises. It's the Kim shuffle.
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The body language in the photo is telling.
That’s all I’ll say...I just got dinged the other day for a political comment and can’t afford another.
That’s all I’ll say...I just got dinged the other day for a political comment and can’t afford another.
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They are masters.......
They are masters at alternately threatening the world and asking for help because it gets them what they want, while other countries hope that peace is at hand.
Somewhat (ha ha) reminiscent of the North Vietnamese going to the Paris Peace Accords when they needed time to consolidate their forces in Vietnam. Again, and again and again. We wanted out and they wanted in and they knew it.
I hope that we are in a stronger position to bargain with NK than many other SE Asian countries. But all Un has to do is pout and cut off talks and we'll be begging him to come back to the table.
They are masters at alternately threatening the world and asking for help because it gets them what they want, while other countries hope that peace is at hand.
Somewhat (ha ha) reminiscent of the North Vietnamese going to the Paris Peace Accords when they needed time to consolidate their forces in Vietnam. Again, and again and again. We wanted out and they wanted in and they knew it.
I hope that we are in a stronger position to bargain with NK than many other SE Asian countries. But all Un has to do is pout and cut off talks and we'll be begging him to come back to the table.
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joeintexas
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I think Kim just won a bet and now gets to go to south Korea and get a real haircut. I bet he's a lousy tipper.
LoboGunLeather
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Best news I have heard from North Korea is the Kim Jong Un edict that no one else can have the same haircut he sports around.
Roadtrash
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Trust, no, verify, yes.
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He probably ate the north’s last chicken and is hoping the US and ROK will cater the peace talks.
Make him a cardboard sign “Will negotiate for food.”
soFlaNative
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Reminds me of the little bully who finally wrote the check his butt couldn't cash.
Now wants to be everybody's pal before he gets stomped.
Now wants to be everybody's pal before he gets stomped.
Mike G 0351
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Germany unified, Why can't Korea....Wait and see, Hope for the best.
RGVshooter
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Well they already released the details of the treaty. NK agreed to a total denuclearization and a peace treaty. My mind is still blown away at the complete 180 NK has done. Either conditions are sooo bad over there that they completely broke down or they're in cahoots with someone and are plotting some deviot sinister plan to do something uncool.
I just don't get it. This suddenness confuses me.
READ: Full declaration of North and South Korean summit - CNN
I just don't get it. This suddenness confuses me.
READ: Full declaration of North and South Korean summit - CNN
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4barrel
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What if he finally perfected what he has and toned down to get enough help to get what he started out to do? I had to get my hair cut to get a better job one time. You are not a tough guy one day and back off the next unless you have something up your sleeve.
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Chinese Geologist Says NK Collapsed Mountain Involved in Their Nuclear Program
North Korea nuclear test site has collapsed and may be out of action – China study | World news | The Guardian.
So maybe summit is their Plan B until they can rebuild program or buy time and look good to the world, or whatever the crazies think will work until they get ????
North Korea nuclear test site has collapsed and may be out of action – China study | World news | The Guardian.
So maybe summit is their Plan B until they can rebuild program or buy time and look good to the world, or whatever the crazies think will work until they get ????
vonn
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Hope it is over but I want a lot of verification on any deals that we enter into. I truly believe you can only negotiate from a position of strength and our guys can’t wimp out as has happened so many times in the past.
I'm not gonna rush to beat my sword back into a plowshare.
The only thing that matters to Un is staying in power. If we remember that as the driving force this makes sense. It makes no sense to really go to war with anyone. His dad taught him to saber rattle and threaten until the world offered gifts in return for peace. He got his bluff called, so now he has to play nice. Seems pretty simple to me, he is doing what works.
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Well, Kim Jong-un could simply be insane.
Or more likely bipolar, and he could just be on the downswing right now.
I'm serious. I've long had the suspicion there's been some inbreeding in that family...he could be the byblow of an incestuous relationship.
As my dad's youngest brother used to say, "That boy left his grits on the stove too long."
Absalom
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People like the Kims don’t stay in power by being stupid or insane, even though we seem to have this strange psychological need to belittle our enemies.
Kim has what he needs: Enough nuclear weapons to make taking him out like Saddam or Khaddafi much too risky for everybody who might consider it. Mission accomplished.
So for now he can negotiate, offer concessions, even stop any further nuclear program, do whatever gets him stuff, works to his advantage, and helps stabilize his power.
Whoever “wins” this round, it’s not going to be the people of North Korea.
Kim has what he needs: Enough nuclear weapons to make taking him out like Saddam or Khaddafi much too risky for everybody who might consider it. Mission accomplished.
So for now he can negotiate, offer concessions, even stop any further nuclear program, do whatever gets him stuff, works to his advantage, and helps stabilize his power.
Whoever “wins” this round, it’s not going to be the people of North Korea.
Muss Muggins
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That's the word on the street . . .
RGVshooter
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Unless they had second thoughts about Trump's rhetoric and actually believe he WOULD push the button. The Chinese probably broke under the thought of have a large American force in the area having a shock & awe party on NK and got after kim hard to make peace.
But then maybe Trump's tough dealings with the chinese with this trade war is taking their toll on them & they blinked first?
But then maybe Trump's tough dealings with the chinese with this trade war is taking their toll on them & they blinked first?
HOUSTON RICK
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In India one man starved that a nation may live; in North Korea, a nation starves to feed one man.
venomballistics
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A little different .. Germany wanted to unify, but could not due to the iron curtain.
KJU has established NK as a nuclear power. Per rule 303, unification is to be on his terms.
At least, thats the vibe I'm getting.
