LAPD S&W 45 Decocker school?
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I'd still like a copy of the course if someone has it. Thanks!
Written requests on Department Letterhead to the OIC of the Firearms Unit is the only way it gets sent out.
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The de-cocker school can be taken with any dept approved Beretta or smith. There were a couple that went through the class with a 9mm Beretta. My class was maxed out at 15 officers and apparently they will run only 1 or 2 classes a year. I think most are happy with the Glock or are pursuing the 1911 school. I thought about purchasing a 1911 and trying for the school but I'm so happy with the 4506 that I decided against it. I talked to the firearms coordinator and apparently they are going to authorize SW M&P's. I waiting for the SW bodyguard to get in stock to replace my SW .38 back up.
I'd handle that Bodyguard first - were I you.
The ones I examined had OK triggers, but were not something I'd consider as a BUG/off duty gun.
Try to find a nice 640-1. Pre lock, pre MIM, all stainless goodness. Nice 357 all stainless BUG.
I'm surprised that they might approve the M&P - unless they are getting the "for free" deal that S&W is pushing. Regards 18DAI.
The ones I examined had OK triggers, but were not something I'd consider as a BUG/off duty gun.
Try to find a nice 640-1. Pre lock, pre MIM, all stainless goodness. Nice 357 all stainless BUG.
I'm surprised that they might approve the M&P - unless they are getting the "for free" deal that S&W is pushing. Regards 18DAI.
Tim Nagel
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Any recent updates about the S&W school and the 4506? Where are the Officers finding new 4506's? The seem to be hard to find in decent shape in my area!
Tim,
What updates are you looking for?
The school is scheduled to run 2-3 times this year. It is limited in size and there is a waiting list. We are short on Funds, Instructors and Range time, just like every other department.
Most people already have their weapons or are buying them from other Officers.
Mike
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Mike, I was just wondering where the Officers were finding new 4506's? I have one but one of my brother Officers can't seem to locate one. Our Firearms guy insists it needs to be new in the box or checked over by S&W before he will qualify him on the 4506/4566 pistol. Around here in Ohio they have all seemed to have dried up! Thanks for your response!
Tim,well new ones from S+W are non existant right now, when you say your firearms guy ,is he an instructor,an armorer,OIC or what.
Granted any used pistol should be function checked,make sure all safeties operate properly,and that the gun at least meets mininum factory specs as far as trigger press weight and that it doesnt malfunction when shot.If your agency has some restrictions,thats one thing,if this is just what he wants,and he cannot perform the checks himself, he should get the training or pass the job to someone who isnt too lazy to handle it. One guy shouldnt be able to hold up another officer(unless he is the Chief).
Right now the 4506/4566 rush is on ,young guys here are paying over a grand for a good night sighted 06 with several mags and the associated leather gear.Whoopee!!! Personally I think the gun is great so as far as Im concerned its a good thing but they are becoming scarce at any price.REB
Granted any used pistol should be function checked,make sure all safeties operate properly,and that the gun at least meets mininum factory specs as far as trigger press weight and that it doesnt malfunction when shot.If your agency has some restrictions,thats one thing,if this is just what he wants,and he cannot perform the checks himself, he should get the training or pass the job to someone who isnt too lazy to handle it. One guy shouldnt be able to hold up another officer(unless he is the Chief).
Right now the 4506/4566 rush is on ,young guys here are paying over a grand for a good night sighted 06 with several mags and the associated leather gear.Whoopee!!! Personally I think the gun is great so as far as Im concerned its a good thing but they are becoming scarce at any price.REB
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He's our Department Firearms Instructor/ Officer hes more a Glock guy than S&W! He's a Glock Armorer, he will let use a used S&W 4506/4566, but he wants it checked over by a certified S&W Armorer.
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Where I was the only one of 3500 or so carrying a 45XX a few weeks ago, I just got two calls about others wanting to use them as we do have them on the approved list. One actually told me he wanted a 4506 as it was the "Vic Mackey" gun from The Shield. I guess I don't care what his reason is as long as it gets a S&W steel .45 on the street.
The NIB 4506-1's are VERY scarce lately. There have been a few lightly used 4506's on Gunbroker in the last month or so. The vast majority though appear to have had rather rough lives.
I found a 4506 in a remote area of VA yesterday and slapped it in layaway. A dash 3 with adjustable night sights in fairly new condition.
Unlike the 4506-3 I picked up in the Cabela's deal last month, this one yesterday has a MIM hammer. I'm going to replace it with a blue forged hammer when I get it out of layaway.
One way to track down a LNIB 4506 is to contact your area S&W LEO rep. They can see if any are "in the vault" and also check local distributors for you........after they pester you to buy an M&P instead.
I'll keep any eye out locally for you Tim Nagel. Regards 18DAI.
I found a 4506 in a remote area of VA yesterday and slapped it in layaway. A dash 3 with adjustable night sights in fairly new condition.
Unlike the 4506-3 I picked up in the Cabela's deal last month, this one yesterday has a MIM hammer. I'm going to replace it with a blue forged hammer when I get it out of layaway.
One way to track down a LNIB 4506 is to contact your area S&W LEO rep. They can see if any are "in the vault" and also check local distributors for you........after they pester you to buy an M&P instead.
I'll keep any eye out locally for you Tim Nagel. Regards 18DAI.
Tim Nagel
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The NIB 4506-1's are VERY scarce lately. There have been a few lightly used 4506's on Gunbroker in the last month or so. The vast majority though appear to have had rather rough lives.
I found a 4506 in a remote area of VA yesterday and slapped it in layaway. A dash 3 with adjustable night sights in fairly new condition.
Unlike the 4506-3 I picked up in the Cabela's deal last month, this one yesterday has a MIM hammer. I'm going to replace it with a blue forged hammer when I get it out of layaway.
One way to track down a LNIB 4506 is to contact your area S&W LEO rep. They can see if any are "in the vault" and also check local distributors for you........after they pester you to buy an M&P instead.
I'll keep any eye out locally for you Tim Nagel. Regards 18DAI.
Thanks 18DAI!
I'm watching the BB's for you and will let you know if one comes up that's worth it, right now even the crappy ones go quick!
Mike
Tim Nagel
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Thanks for looking, we found a NIB S&W 4506 at an estate sale locally, he got it for $475 with 6 mags! He got a deal because the guy doing the sale likes LE Officers!
So, one year later, is this school still being run? Are many still switching over?
What has been more popular, the 4506 or 4566?
What are the 3rd gen S&W guys using as an off duty gun? Thanks again, especially to our LAPD guys for sharing all the info!
Regards 18DAI
What has been more popular, the 4506 or 4566?
What are the 3rd gen S&W guys using as an off duty gun? Thanks again, especially to our LAPD guys for sharing all the info!
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