Large gun safe in apartment

[boombotz401]

Anyone have a large safe in an apartment?

I recently purchased a liberty USA 30 thinking heavier is better with room to grow however @ 545 lbs empty I’m highly concerned it could damage the floor after a extended time

I’m on the first floor but it’s not a concrete slab.

I’m considering returning for either of these 2 models

Champion M21 @ 490lbs

Liberty centurion 24 @ 375lbs

Quality is of high importance without concerns of damage, I do have cameras around my home that alert me of any motion in the home

I do not want a cheap stack on 10lb cabinet

Suggestions? Previous experience?


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[moralem]

I am on pier and beam and have a 900lb safe that I have had no issues with. You should be fine.....also just push it in a corner where you will have even better support. How much do you think your refrigerator weighs? A modern medium size refrig weighs in at about 300 pounds. You should be good.

 

[chief38]

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Anyone have a large safe in an apartment?

I recently purchased a liberty USA 30 thinking heavier is better with room to grow however @ 545 lbs empty I’m highly concerned it could damage the floor after a extended time

I’m on the first floor but it’s not a concrete slab.

I’m considering returning for either of these 2 models

Champion M21 @ 490lbs

Liberty centurion 24 @ 375lbs

Quality is of high importance without concerns of damage, I do have cameras around my home that alert me of any motion in the home

I do not want a cheap stack on 10lb cabinet

Suggestions? Previous experience?


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How much does your full Refrigerator weigh? Probably much more! Even though the safe weighs 545 lbs. empty you need to see what the weight per square inch is.

The dimensions of your safe are 36 x 25 (footprint). 36" X 25" = 900 sq. inches. 545 lbs / 900 sq in = 0.6lbs per square inch. I'd doubt just over a half a pound per square inch means anything! If you weigh 200 pounds and stand on the floor your weight per square inch is more than the safe! Even if your safe weights 1,000 pounds full, STILL not a big deal. It's NOT what it weighs, it's how much per square inch the dispersed weight is. I'd go ahead and keep it and not worry! Even at 1,000 full it would be 1.1 lbs per sq. inch! 2,000 lbs = 2.2lbs per sq. inch, so on and so forth!

 

[nachogrande]

NEED TO KNOW THE SPECS, WT LIMITS, etc.

Aside from the wt, getting a big safe into an apt will be hard to keep it a secret & some may believe it's for huge sums of cash, drugs, gold bars, whatever. IF such safes are allowed at all. I'd do a little homework before moving one in.

 

[boombotz401]

As I’m understanding residential areas are designing for 40 psf

If I’m doing this right this safe is 6.25 sq feet. Empty weight puts me at 86 psf




Myself and a friend moved it in, we’re going to tell people it was a deep freezer if anyone became nosey but under night fall nobody was outside and it was covered in cardboard


The safe is bigger than my fridge haha




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[THE PILGRIM]

Slab? Sounds good to go to me!
Bolt that beauty down hard!

 

[boombotz401]

Slab? Sounds good to go to me!
Bolt that beauty down hard!

No slab, I lifted up the carpet to look and saw plywood. Seems very sturdy built but I’m no framer


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[Ivan the Butcher]

I have an old Browning 30 gun safe that weighs 750 empty. For 30 years I had it inside a bedroom closet. walls were below it so the support was all and more than necessary! If possible put it in a corner and pay attention to which way the floor joist run, set it so it sets on 3 or more and nobody will ever know the difference, even after decades of sitting there full of Smith & Wesson revolvers.

At one point I had 200 pounds of lead ingots in the bottom to help with anti-theft security. It was totally unnecessary!
Your greatest security come from nobody knows it is there. If nothing else, use the packing box for a freezer as camouflage. Or do as I did and put it in a closet that the maintenance man doesn't need in to service your apartment.

Ivan

 

[chief38]

Aside from the wt, getting a big safe into an apt will be hard to keep it a secret & some may believe it's for huge sums of cash, drugs, gold bars, whatever. IF such safes are allowed at all. I'd do a little homework before moving one in.

Not really hard to "disguise" at all. All you have to do is get Refrigerator box, an appliance box, or even a simple movers blanket will do. Make sure the safe company uses an unmarked truck - many do that for this exact reason. If an empty fridge box is used no one will give it a second thought.

 

[sar4937]

I had a similar problem at a house, nosey gun hating neighbors. I bought a Zanotti Armory modular safe. Carried it inside in pieces at night. Very secure, but not as fireproof as I would have wished for. It comes in pieces and goes together with pins. It can be assembled inside of a closet for stealth. I'm not sure if they are still in business, but there is a brand in the back of American Rifleman that is similar.

 

[paplinker]

Take the feet off the bottom and let it sit flush on the floor.

I did that in a closet that had a finished ceiling below and it was fine for over 7 years.

 

[Wise_A]

A 75-gallon aquarium weighs 1 pound per square inch. Nobody has any problem with those.

 

[sar4937]

Yes, spread the load. Or, put a sheet on 3/4 inch plywood underneath at the very least.