Larry Vickers take Glock 43 vs. Shield

[9Shield]

If Glock sold the 43 at the price point the Shield is at, I wonder what I would have done. I'm glad Glock made my decision very easy, I love my Shield.

 

[shawn mccarver]

OMG, Mr. Vickers does not "ride the reset."

He shoots as he preaches: shooting to reset is the biggest training scar of the current era.

 

[alwslate]

Which also means you don't go with a Glock 26 for it's size compared to other double stack offerings, you go with a 26 because you like Glocks despite their size.

Nothing wrong with liking Glocks, I just don't care for statements like 'they are super awesome because they are super small'. They aren't, compared to actual comparable guns.

Again, if you have to compare a Glock 43 to the Glock 26 to make the 43 look svelte, that says enough.

I have three Glocks, my first one, a Gen 2 mod 19, my
second one, a Gen 3 mod 26 and my 43. As you might notice
they descend in size. I don't know who who are quoting
because at 70 "super awesome" isn't in my vocabulary
so show me where I said that. I see comments where people
judge one gun "better" than another because of a myriad of
subjective opinions such as grip feel or trigger smoothness
and overlook the obvious. There is so much more to a gun
than a "smooth trigger", my favorite silly remark. Glock
has the world standard 9mm pretty well figured out. This
isn't debatable. The world market votes with dollar bills
and it has spoken.

 

[Echo47]

I had been considering both the G43 and Shield 9 for a few months, but bought the Shield 9 because of the availability of the Mag-guts magazine inserts for it.
I thought the product would increase the magazine capacity by one round but once the Mag-guts springs were broken in to the magazines, the OEM 8-round staggered magazines will accept 10 rounds.
Considering the M&P Compact 9 magazines will hold only 2 additional rounds for an MSRP of $100 more than the Shield 9, I'll stick with the Shield with 21 rounds in two magazines.
Echo47

"Never give up your 2nd Amendment rights."

 

[McE]

I don't have a Shield but I do have a Glock 43. I continue to be
amazed at how compact it really is. It hides better than my
lightweight J frame S&W in the front pocket of my jeans in a thin
pocket holster.

"Glock 43 is amazingly compact" + "Glock 43 hides better than a revolver"
-Just about every other single stack 9 is more compact, so what's amazing about its size?
It's like stating that a particular car with the worst-in-class fuel efficiency is amazingly fuel efficient. Then saying that it's more fuel efficient than an SUV.

 

[Scopes]

"Glock 43 is amazingly compact" + "Glock 43 hides better than a revolver"
-Just about every other single stack 9 is more compact, so what's amazing about its size?
It's like stating that a particular car with the worst-in-class fuel efficiency is amazingly fuel efficient. Then saying that it's more fuel efficient than an SUV.

Yep, I'm tired of hearing that as well. I'd still like to fire a 43 since I am a G fanboy, but my LGS sells them before they even hit the shelf and they won't put them in the rental rotation.

 

[amcline82]

I think he hit the nail on head. I think that Glock missed the mark on that pistol. I do have a full size Glock and do really like it. But I think the 43 is a waste of money.

 

[Trons]

Well, the 43 wasn't available when I bought my shield, but if it had been, I still would have gone with the shield. I picked the shield, not because it was S&W, but because it was the best gun, of it's size, for the price point (give or take $100). I see nothing to change that with the release of the 43.

I will say that my next gun will probably be G19. The few full sized Glocks I've shot (a 19, 23, 26 and another I don't remember) I shoot better than other full sized guns, such as the M&P9.

Unfortunately, my daughter is engaged, so any future purchases have to wait, as does pretty much everything else, till "After the Wedding"

 

[growr]

And I will still carry my 3913 in preference to both....
Randy

 

[plinker 22]

I hope this Larry Vicker's review doesn't end up like his FireClean endorsement.

Yes, It?s True: FireClean is Vegetable Oil - The Firearm Blog

And his endorsement review...
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0OAsOCEJfQ[/ame]

 

[tinman931]

After comparing both, I went with the G43. I don't have any particular brand allegiance. It just fit my hand better and was more comfortable for me to conceal and shoot than the Shield.
IMO, most modern (especially polymer) guns are well made and reliable. It comes down to what you are the most comfortable with and can carry/shoot the best. That is the reason why I am hesitant to recommend specific guns to anyone if they haven't had a chance to hold and shoot them. It comes to to what works the best for you. For me, and for this particular application, it was the Glock.
BTW-I am not a Glock fanboy. This was my first.

 

[alwslate]

"Glock 43 is amazingly compact" + "Glock 43 hides better than a revolver"
-Just about every other single stack 9 is more compact, so what's amazing about its size?
It's like stating that a particular car with the worst-in-class fuel efficiency is amazingly fuel efficient. Then saying that it's more fuel efficient than an SUV.

Since you are the oviously the type of poster who just likes
to pick at what someone else posts instead of contributing
anything meaningful this will be my last post on this thread.
And like others of your ilk you fail to acually comprehend the
meaning of the written word and try to put words on paper
for others that you can then pick at. I'll try to make it simple
enough that you can understand; the 43 is smaller than I
expected it to be. I like it's size. I couldn't care less about
the slight differences in size between various compact single
stack nines. It fits into my jeans pocket better than the gun
that has been residing there. That's good enough for me. I
don't need to make any other size comparisons period. I
like the simple rugged Glock design. Now those are simple
statements you should be able to comprehend. So if you
still feel the need to pick at this at least choose one of
these simple remarks without any more "creative" writing.

 

[Scopes]

Since you are the oviously the type of poster who just likes
to pick at what someone else posts instead of contributing
anything meaningful this will be my last post on this thread.
And like others of your ilk you fail to acually comprehend the
meaning of the written word and try to put words on paper
for others that you can then pick at. I'll try to make it simple
enough that you can understand; the 43 is smaller than I
expected it to be. I like it's size. I couldn't care less about
the slight differences in size between various compact single
stack nines. It fits into my jeans pocket better than the gun
that has been residing there. That's good enough for me. I
don't need to make any other size comparisons period. I
like the simple rugged Glock design. Now those are simple
statements you should be able to comprehend. So if you
still feel the need to pick at this at least choose one of
these simple remarks without any more "creative" writing.

Relax. This had more to do with Glock acting like they created some game-changer pistol than anything else.

 

[McE]

Relax. This had more to do with Glock acting like they created some game-changer pistol than anything else.

Yep. Well, not so much Glock's attitude, but something along the lines of those that fit into the description of the Koolaid thread.

Might just be me, but I think pointing out the size differences between the Glock 43 and guns actually in its category is more of a contribution to this thread than whatever the angry guy said.

 

[shawn mccarver]

G43 and Shield are both fine pistols. It all comes down to personal preference. The positive point here is that BOTH pistols add choices to consumers for a real 9mm that is able to be (though some will not, or may disagree) carried in the pocket. In the end, that is a good thing for consumers.

As to that gun oil discussed, there are all sorts of choices out there. Personally, I have never found a good reason to change from Hoppes and Break Free. On the other hand, what the world needs now is either a COMPLETELY non-corrosive black powder substitute that measures EXACTLY the same as the real stuff and a cleaning solution that really will do away with rust issues for black powder shooters. Yes, I know that very hot soapy water works just fine on any gun, but I for one have a certain prejudice against using it on a firearm. I have done it with no ill results, but it takes longer, etc. If you think I am too gentle with my firearms, ok.

 

[Rastoff]

I hope this Larry Vicker's review doesn't end up like his FireClean endorsement.

Yes, It?s True: FireClean is Vegetable Oil - The Firearm Blog

This thread is not about oil, but that was an interesting article. Here is FireClean's response to those allegations: FireCLEAN Defends Product, Publishes statement on ?CanolaOilGate? - The Firearm Blog It's worth it to note that at no time do they deny that FireClean is just canola oil.

Basically, this means I can buy $300 worth of FireClean for $4 a the local grocery store. I may have to try some Crisco.

EDIT: One more thing. Using a video of smoke to determine how well a lubricant works is the most ludicrous test I've ever heard of.

 

[shell627]

I try to stay out of glock bashing threads.However I have posted my experience with both Shield and Glock 43 before.When I do my part shooting the guns side by side.There is little difference in group size.
The Shield is a little softer shooting.The Glock is what I am required to use at work.So I compromise on my time.I carry Shield on hip and Glock in pocket the best of both worlds.

 

[load748]

boyz, boyz, boyz arent we thin skinned....... ha ha ha children!