LATEST UPDATE ON THE CIVILIAN MARKSMANSHIP PROGRAM 1911A1 PISTOLS!

[Watchdog]

Alabama Congressman Mike Rogers’ amendment passed 6/28/2017 with the FY2018 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). The legislation will now move to the House floor and go to the Senate.

You can read more about this from Congressman Rogers by clicking here.

If, for some reason, the link doesn't work for you, here is a brief quote from Congressman Rogers' report:

"The amendment would compel the Army to release M1911A1 pistols to the CMP. Transferring these vintage pistols to the CMP would allow them to inspect, grade, prepare for sale and sell these pistols. The CMP would reimburse the Army for costs associated with the transferring of the pistols. CMP South, headquartered in Anniston, Alabama, oversees sales. Similar language has been in the last two NDAAs, but the previous Obama Administration would not allow the Army to deliver the pistols to the CMP for political reasons.

Rogers’ amendment, supported by the NRA, authorizes and directs the Army to complete the delivery."

These pistols would include Colts, Ithacas, and Remington Rands. And quite possibly some by Union Switch & Signal and Remington-UMC. And who knows...maybe even some Springfields!

All of us who love the 1911A1s still have a long wait ahead of us, but there may be light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[A10]

Maybe a Singer? One can dream.....

 

[JohnRippert]

Maybe a Singer? One can dream.....

Any of the more rare 1911's will immediately go to auction on the CMP site, I guarantee.

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

I would happily take any of these 1911s that shoots.

 

[gjamison]

I'm sure most of these will be sold on the cmp auction site.

 

[Magneto]

Any of the more rare 1911's will immediately go to auction on the CMP site, I guarantee.

Yep, the CMP is all about the Benjamins these days.

 

[Richard Simmons]

Yep, the CMP is all about the Benjamins these days.

That's how they fund themselves. They get the most money they can for the stuff they get. Not sure if folks know that or even care?

 

[oneounceload]

That's how they fund themselves. They get the most money they can for the stuff they get. Not sure if folks know that or even care?

Why shouldn't they do that? Helps keep other costs down.

 

[ladder13]

And they said it wouldn't get done. Start saving those bottle caps.
I'm in for a few should they release these historical icons.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/firear...nced-post138911211.html?460977=#post138911211

 

[Watchdog]

I'm sure most of these will be sold on the cmp auction site.

Well, that's the whole purpose of releasing them to the CMP, although I'm not sure yet that they'll be "auctioned". They may simply be put up for sale at fixed prices. The CMP is projected to receive (overall) thousands of these pistols. It's hard to imagine several hundred of them going up for auction at one time, or even over the space of a few weeks.

I've heard the figure of 55,000 pistols will be available to the CMP, but I can't remember where I read it, and have no idea if it's true. And they won't receive them all at once.

I've mentioned this before, but these pistols aren't going to show up at the CMP one day and then go up for sale the following week.

Every one will be inspected and graded regarding condition. If any are inoperative, they'll be repaired. The CMP isn't going to sell pistols that don't work or will malfunction every time someone chambers a round or pulls the trigger. The pistols can be coming from anywhere, even overseas.

I fully expect the pistols will start off at a minimum price of $1000-$1200. Again, it will all depend on condition, and also on the manufacturer. Ithacas will sell for more than Remington Rands...just as they mostly do now. Colts even higher. A really good quality Union Switch & Signal can go for over $7,000 these days. There were only 55,000 of those made during the war years. Ditto for Springfields...very hard to find nice ones now at a price ordinary guys like me could afford.

But I'd be happy to settle for aother Ithaca or Remington Rand. Or a Colt! They are excellent pistols, all of them.

Keep in mind, this isn't a definite done deal yet. And even if it does happen, it'll be a year, possibly two years or longer, before we see the pistols ready for sale.

So I'll just kinda lay back and keep my fingers crossed that it'll happen and that I'll still be around when it does.

 

[Watchdog]

Yep, the CMP is all about the Benjamins these days.

Kinda like gun shops and just about every other business in America, huh?

 

[Richard Simmons]

Why shouldn't they do that? Helps keep other costs down.

They should. My comment was intended for folks that think the CMP should provide firearms at the cheapest possible price.

 

[moosedog]

I don't expect any deals at all, but I am pretty much set on my 1911's and 1911A1's. What I do hope is that it helps stabilize the market prices on original 1911 type pistols.
Let's face it, more collector guns in the market, the better it is for all involved. We would not be having this conversation if the election went the other way. Remember that next time too.

 

[Steve912]

They should cap the mark-up CMP can put on em at something like $75/pistol...

 

[BigBill]

I'm not waiting I purchased a new Auto Ordnance army ww2 clone it's as close to a real usgi 1911 that's manufactured today. For $389 I did good nib.

The first ones offered will never hit the auction sight the chosen few will get theirs first the ones in the click sort of speak.

 

[BigBill]

They should cap the mark-up CMP can put on em at something like $75/pistol...

Just $75 dollars that might get you two mags. We're going to pay through the nose for these.

Starting at $1,000 for the worst ones. I'll pass.

 

[C J]

Kinda like gun shops and just about every other business in America, huh?

But they aren't just another LGS. If they were that would be different. But the CMP was about getting people to shoot to develop their skills. That's what I remember. It was supposed to be about getting guns into the hands of people that might be called on to serve the country in the military. It wasn't about raking in cash.

 

[JohnRippert]

I sure do hear a lot of sour grapes in all the threads that I have seen about these 1911's. I realize that not everyone is going to be able to afford one at these prices, but they are not obligated to list them for below market. In fact, just the opposite. Whatever the market will bear is what they have to sell them for. Make no mistake, these will sell at the prices they are planning, I expect they will sell faster than some think/want. If sales are slow enough at the prices they choose then maybe a drop will happen. Don't hold your breath though.

 

[ladder13]

These pistols are already spoken for should they become available, count on it. Buy one, don't buy one, your choice.

 

[Richard Simmons]

But they aren't just another LGS. If they were that would be different. But the CMP was about getting people to shoot to develop their skills. That's what I remember. It was supposed to be about getting guns into the hands of people that might be called on to serve the country in the military. It wasn't about raking in cash.

You're partially correct. It seems folks assume what the CMP is about then get upset when they don't adhere to that assumed standard.

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