Lawman Gunned Down A Century Ago - Commemorative Nickel 29

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I picked-up this Commemorative Nickel 29-3 last year. These were done up and sold in the mid 80's by the Orange Co. Sheriffs' Dept. (CA) and commemorate the 1st Lawman (Under Sheriff Robert Squires) killed in the the line of duty at Tomato Springs in Orange Co., CA. Today is the 100 anniversary (Dec. 16th, 1912) of that shootout and loss of life.

Here's a link to the story of what happened:
Lawman gunned down a century ago - Local - The Orange County Register

I've been told there are less than 300 of these and they originally sold for $750 (about $1550 adjusted for inflation). From what I understand, they were sold as a fund raiser (Project 999) to gather money for peace officers killed or wounded in the line of duty. I also heard the late Georgia Frontiere the than owner of the Rams (who were still playing in Anaheim at that time) was involved in this project.

My particular gun was taken in by my local shop from the daughter of the late Chick Iverson (who she inherited from). Mr. Iverson (a well known car dealer in the area) was best friends with John Wayne and an avid gun collector. My gun is # 169 and is numbered on the inside of the crane, badge, and medallion.

These originally sold with a belt buckle and paperwork which I didn't receive. A forum member here who owns one of these commemoratives was kind enough to photo copy his paperwork and send me a copy.

The original gun used in the 1912 shootout by Robert Squires was a nickel plated .44 Spl. I guess in the mid 80's the model 29 was the closest S&W had to use to best duplicate that gun. The grips are custom made and numbered (75?) using the OCSD badge as the grip medallion.

When these guns came out, one was given to a local shop (Grants Guns in Costa Mesa, a local John Wayne hang out) for display and order purposes. I spoke to the shop owner who recalled a story about the display gun. He had noticed a customer was trying to conceal a shiney gun under his jacket. Sure enough, the display gun was missing from behind the counter. When the owner confronted the thief, the thief pulled the revolver on him and dry fired it towards his face. The owner grabbed the gun out of his hands and the thief fled the store.

Anyway, I've rambled enough. Here's some Pics.

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Very cool.. I actually live in Orange County, CA.
 
Value?

Nice story and research! I grew up in NB and fondly remember Grant Boys as the place to get all outdoor gear! Have one of these fine rigs and wonder what the value might be? Gun is Number 010 of 250.

Thanks for any insight!
 
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Nice story and research! I grew up in NB and fondly remember Grant Boys as the place to get all outdoor gear! Have one of these fine rigs and wonder what the value might be? Gun is Number 010 of 250.

Thanks for any insight!

Gave you an answer in the other thread, but I would say $900 to $1100.
 
Not your usual commemorative, is it? One of the more interesting ones I've seen, and much more interesting than the usual "50 Years of Such-and-Such-a-State Highway Patrol" and others of that ilk.

Those grips are positively stunning, and the markings on the gun (engraving?) seems of a higher quality than the usual S&W commemorative.

That's a gun to keep for generations...but of course, if it came up for sale, I'd take a shot at it (no pun intended).
 
That is a beautiful revolver commemorating an event worth remembering.

Thank you for sharing!
 
Found another Robert Squires Commemorative 29-3

Sorry to resurrect a 6 year old thread but, I thought it would be better to keep this in one place.

About 10 years ago, my wife's grandfather passed away and my Father-in-Law inherited a gun that became his. He has had it in storage since. Just last night, I had a chance to borrow it and learn more about this beautiful commemorative gun and the history surrounding it.

I am thankful for this forum and the wealth of knowledge stored here. I had made my post-Thanksgiving morning fun, to learn about the history of the gun and Robert Squires. One of my favorite bits of information was the fact that these guns sold at Grant Boys (Costa Mesa, CA) in 1984. That very same year was when I purchased my first new handgun (a Ruger Security Six) from Grant Boys.

From all I can tell, from 4 to 10 year old posts, is the gun has not really been a barn-burner with regards to value. Has anyone seen anything about this commemorative gun in recent years? This particular gun has been a 100% safe queen but, for what? If the values will never really do much, it seems like this would be fun gun to fire at the local range. Opinions?

Here are a few pics of #132.

Edit: My father-in-law has the boxed up belt buckle that came with the gun, in his possession. I did not photograph it though.








 
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I say shoot it. I don't think this will have any real collector value anytime soon. It's kind of a niche gun. If you work for OCSD and are a gun guy, you might want one. Otherwise it's just a safe queen/conversation piece.

I ended-up selling mine a few years ago out of State. I opted for the $1000 over a safe queen. I do regret selling it though. Now that I'm retired, I might try to get my hands on another one day.
 
I say change the grips to something more comfy and shoot it.
Not sure how much it will end up decreasing the value anyway.
 
Cool gun and story. I recall when it was easy to purchase a gun in So Cal...:(.

My opinion on firing it is - if you have another 6" model 29 or can borrow/try one, that will be exactly the same as shooting this one. Commemorative collectors (though relatively few in number) can be a picky bunch, and even the trivial turn line on the cylinder is seen as a negative should you ever decide to sell it. Good luck in your decision and remaining in CA...
 
I say shoot it. I don't think this will have any real collector value anytime soon. It's kind of a niche gun. If you work for OCSD and are a gun guy, you might want one. Otherwise it's just a safe queen/conversation piece.

I ended-up selling mine a few years ago out of State. I opted for the $1000 over a safe queen. I do regret selling it though. Now that I'm retired, I might try to get my hands on another one day.

I appreciate your insight and experience with this commemorative. It is such a beauty. I can't stop admiring it.
 
Cool gun and story. I recall when it was easy to purchase a gun in So Cal...:(.

My opinion on firing it is - if you have another 6" model 29 or can borrow/try one, that will be exactly the same as shooting this one. Commemorative collectors (though relatively few in number) can be a picky bunch, and even the trivial turn line on the cylinder is seen as a negative should you ever decide to sell it. Good luck in your decision and remaining in CA...

I wish I had access to another 29-3. This is the only one I've actually held. I love my 1941 .38-44 Outdoorsman (also an N-Frame, but in 6.5 barrel). That is a range favorite, as .38 is so easy to shoot. That one has even more sentimental value to me as it was my Grandfather's when he was a motor officer during WWII for Pasadena (CA) PD.

Upon very close inspection and polishing of the commemorative, I've noticed very slight turn lines on the cylinder. Maybe, that's the excuse to go shoot it.
 

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