Lawsuit: Calif. Woman Held for 13 Days After Case of Mistaken Identity

Besides first and last name, I doubt there were other similarities. In this day and age with access to databases containing booking/DMV photos, fingerprints, DOB, physical descriptions, etc. Worst case scenario a couple hours to sort things out by a cop with an IQ above room temperature.
 
Beemerguy53 said:
That's a tough situation. I would suggest your friend should try to get a photocopy, if possible, of his cousin's Driver's License, and carry it with him when he knows his own ID will be checked.

I have a very unusual Scottish first name -- one that is rarely heard even in Scotland, and never over here -- and a German last name (only in America, right? :) ; while there are a lot of disadvantages to having a unique name, ID mixups isn't one of them.
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Are you sure carrying someone else's id around would be a good idea when he's already suspected of criminal behavior?
 
Llance said:
Many years ago as I was seeing my father off to his home in the north Seattle area from the local AP the TSA agent wanted me to take my belt off so she could rescan me with the magtrometer she was using. I wouldn't do it because if I took my belt off my pants would fall off. She could easily see it was an all metal belt buckle and that it was the only thing setting off her alarm. She even ran her hand around my belt to see that there was no weapon tucked into my belt. She finely said I could not go to the gate to see him off, and I told her I was going and she could shoot me in the back ( she was carrying some kind of pistol) but I was going to the gate. Came back from the gate past where she had done the passage check and there was noone around. Real security there I mean to tell you. My dad had a roofing hatchet in his carryon bag.
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Cool story.

TSA agents doing routine checks do not carry weapons of any kind including firearms.

If you barged past security after failing a scan, I'm very surprised you were not detained by airport police.

If the detection system alerted on your belt buckle, I'm very surprised it did not catch your dad's roofing hatchet.

Even our small local airport has full time law enforcement on site, so I'm very surprised your airport apparently didn't.

I'm very surprised your actions did not land you in jail.
 
Llance said:
Many years ago as I was seeing my father off to his home in the north Seattle area from the local AP the TSA agent wanted me to take my belt off so she could rescan me with the magtrometer she was using. I wouldn't do it because if I took my belt off my pants would fall off. She could easily see it was an all metal belt buckle and that it was the only thing setting off her alarm. She even ran her hand around my belt to see that there was no weapon tucked into my belt. She finely said I could not go to the gate to see him off, and I told her I was going and she could shoot me in the back ( she was carrying some kind of pistol) but I was going to the gate. Came back from the gate past where she had done the passage check and there was noone around. Real security there I mean to tell you. My dad had a roofing hatchet in his carryon bag.
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You win the "Fake News of The Day" award...
 
Well, her and her lawyer will almost certainly be getting a nice deposit in their bank accounts one of these days.
 
Llance said:
SORRY FOLKS, it is not fake news.

It happened pre 911, in fact I think it was 1991. He came here from north of the Seattle area to help me reroof my house. He was here for two weeks and went home by way of Minneapolis.
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TSA didn't exist at that time. The Federal Aviation Administration was in charge of administering airport security regulations, and the actual screening was done by private contractors.

Your story is false.
 
Liability is there-in spades.
Damages.....another question.
Just how much is two weeks in jail worth???
She was not harmed.
She DID miss a trip to Mexico
She did loose her grandmother over this.
Is this a million plus payday......not unless you go to trial and convince a jury which would be like pulling the handle on the slot machine. A LOT would go into jury selection here. A lot would depend on the client.
Don't know if there are punitives in California-but there is a law against arguing "The golden rule" before juries (at least in Louisiana).
In other words you can't stand up there and agrue "What if this was your wife,daughter, sister, etc-but you know the jurors are thinking it.
Now if had been the grandmother locked up-that would be an entirely different question entirely-sky's the limit.
On the other hand, if it was one of the people I'm used to representing , hell 20k and a lid would settle it.
Me, two weeks in jail assuming no injuries or other emotional liasons forced upon me by the inmates, I'd take a quick settlement of a tricked out YukonXL and some gas money and call it square.
The victim is the key.
 
Beemerguy53 said:
TSA didn't exist at that time. The Federal Aviation Administration was in charge of administering airport security regulations, and the actual screening was done by private contractors.

Your story is false.
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My story is not false. It happened as I reported it. You can believe what you want and I won't say again it's truth. Just because I misidentified the security personal does not make the story false. Again you can think what you want but to call me out as processing a falsehood is flat wrong in my book. Bless your heart.
 
Llance said:
My story is not false. It happened as I reported it. You can believe what you want and I won't say again it's truth. Just because I misidentified the security personal does not make the story false. Again you can think what you want but to call me out as processing a falsehood is flat wrong in my book. Bless your heart.
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It's not just your false statement that TSA was the agency involved that makes your story false.

* The contractors who provided airport security screening before TSA was created were not armed, as you alleged. They screened passengers and property, but were not LEOs. Every airport has a law enforcement agency assigned to it, and they are armed (but don't screen passengers).

* Cross-sex screening, which you alleged happened, isn't done in the USA. (It does happen in some other countries. I have had female airport screeners pat down non-sensitive parts of my body, which would never happen here.)

* Your claimed defiance of the security screener, even back then, would have gotten you arrested. There is no way you would have dared her to shoot you in the back, walked away from the checkpoint, and gone to the gate. This sounds like one of those things some guy at the end of the bar late at night would say...so obviously false I'm surprised you actually posted it.

* Finally, pre-9/11 a lot of things were permitted to be carried on an airliner that are banned now...pocket knives, for instance. But I'm fairly certain that even then, hatchets were prohibited...and there is no way that any x-ray operator could possibly miss a hatchet.

While it's possible for the passage of time to dim memories now and then (don't ask me how I know this) every major element of the tale you wove is incredible...it defies historical fact and common sense.

Your story is false.
 
CAJUNLAWYER said:
Liability is there-in spades.
Damages.....another question.

Me, two weeks in jail assuming no injuries or other emotional liasons forced upon me by the inmates, I'd take a quick settlement of a tricked out YukonXL and some gas money and call it square.
The victim is the key.
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I get asking for the Yukon XL, but now days getting gas money for it would be a big over reach.
 
Beemerguy53 said:
It's not just your false statement that TSA was the agency involved that makes your story false.

* The contractors who provided airport security screening before TSA was created were not armed, as you alleged. They screened passengers and property, but were not LEOs. Every airport has a law enforcement agency assigned to it, and they are armed (but don't screen passengers).

* Cross-sex screening, which you alleged happened, isn't done in the USA. (It does happen in some other countries. I have had female airport screeners pat down non-sensitive parts of my body, which would never happen here.)

* Your claimed defiance of the security screener, even back then, would have gotten you arrested. There is no way you would have dared her to shoot you in the back, walked away from the checkpoint, and gone to the gate. This sounds like one of those things some guy at the end of the bar late at night would say...so obviously false I'm surprised you actually posted it.

* Finally, pre-9/11 a lot of things were permitted to be carried on an airliner that are banned now...pocket knives, for instance. But I'm fairly certain that even then, hatchets were prohibited...and there is no way that any x-ray operator could possibly miss a hatchet.

While it's possible for the passage of time to dim memories now and then (don't ask me how I know this) every major element of the tale you wove is incredible...it defies historical fact and common sense.

Your story is false.
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THAT IS NUMBER THREE, ENJOY YOUR LIFE.
 
Beemerguy53 said:
It's a prohibited item. It's unfortunate that TSA missed it the first three times you flew with it, but that doesn't mean they were wrong for enforcing their rules the 4th time.

Kubatons | Transportation Security Administration
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It just amazed me they missed it so many times and then suddenly they caught it. That a hunk of Lexan is prohibited and a pen that actually has a point on the end of it isn't is just whacky to me. Getting that keyring off that kubotan was torture, it had a lot of keys on it, and it just seemed to not want to get taken off the kubotan. Sadly, after over 30 years, I broke the kubotan off when the urinal in the restroom at work got stuck and I gave the valve a whack with it to make it stop. It worked! But about and inch and a quarter of the kubotan broke off, and a few minutes later I was on Ebay, intending to buy another one, but I bought one of these instead. I've had it about 10 years now..

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If I remember correctly, a woman from Colorado traveling through LAX sued TSA because two TSA Agents at LAX felt that they had to manually inspect the inside of her bra to see if she was carrying hand grenades. This was in the early 2000s.

Then again, a TSA Agent tried something similar at LAX about two years ago.
 
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