Lead levels in blood

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I've spent countless hours at indoor ranges. Picked up hundreds of thousands of fired brass. Reloaded for decades using no gloves. Been cleaning suppressors with the DIP.... on and on...

About a year or so ago my wife read something about lead exposure and the article mentioned shooting. So..... she's been on my case since. Got it checked and its way on the low side for an adult and even good for a child so says the doc.

So I'm wondering about all this fretting over lead exposure and shooting. If I'm ok, what do you have to do.... snort powdered lead through a rolled up $20 bill to get too much lead in your blood?
 
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I know a gunsmith that had to take 6 months off due to lead exposure. You have to take apart 100's of 1911's and work around primer dust with solvents for 5+ years with out gloves. Ingesting lead works as well as heating it to the point of vaporizing, or double what you should cast at. Do it not every week but for hours every day.
When is the last time you saw a kid eat paint anyway? See the thread above about the A10, it isn't for public safety rather it is for public funds transferring to private hands.
 
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I've spent countless hours at indoor ranges. Picked up hundreds of thousands of fired brass. Reloaded for decades using no gloves. Been cleaning suppressors with the DIP.... on and on...

About a year or so ago my wife read something about lead exposure and the article mentioned shooting. So..... she's been on my case since. Got it checked and its way on the low side for an adult and even good for a child so says the doc.

So I'm wondering about all this fretting over lead exposure and shooting. If I'm ok, what do you have to do.... snort powdered lead through a rolled up $20 bill to get too much lead in your blood?

Done my share of reloading since mid 70s (shotgun rifle/pistol), cleaned out the backstop area of our clubs indoor pistol range many times( no jacketed ammo was allowed) and also worked as a pipefitter.

That fitter work consisted of lots of lead work in the early part of my carrier, pouring joints, soldering lead and installing shower pans and x-ray protection. Of course I also shot much in the indoor range. Shooting in our indoor range back then was under conditions that would make OSHA and EPA get a serious case of the vapors.

A few years back I talked with my doctor and asked about a lead test as I have a few medical problems. Test was done and while I do not remember the numbers, the doc said my numbers were good, just a slightly elevated above what they consider normal.:)
 
However true or not Wikipedia says not. "Her health declined in 1925 and she died of pernicious anemia in Greenville, Ohio, at the age of 66 on November 3, 1926"
I'm sure a lot of the Western gunfighters died of "Lead Poisoning" but in a different fashion.
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When I worked as a Chemical Tank Liner We had a couple of Guys that did the Lead Liners, They used a Torch and basically welded Lead Plate together along with just making different size Lead Plates. Every Year They had to go to the Hospital and have a Calcium I.V run through Their Veins to remove the Lead from Their Systems.I guess the Calcium attached the Lead and help to flush it out.
 
I've loaded and shot more shells than most people have ever seen plus worked 40 yrs. around lead sheath cables and I don't have any lead poison problems. I don't ever remember hearing of a telephone lineman or splicer dying of lead poison. Lead poisoning is an urban myth to place another obstacle in the path of gun ownership and the shooting sports. Larry
 
I've been reloading since the late 60s. Shot a lot of cast bullets over thirty five or so years.

Been loading shotshells for several years now (and when you dump the shot into the shot holder on the press, there is a small cloud I always seem to breathe in).

Shot for years and years at an indoor police pistol range where there was a lot of lead residue around.

And, after reading some threads on the internet, I got a bit concerned. :confused:

So, on my next visit to the VA, I talked to the doctor (a duck hunter from Louisiana) and asked about a blood test to see if I'd done some damage to myself.

After snickering over the medical info available on the internet, he set up the test.

I don't recall the numbers, but they were normal. :):):)

Bob
 
My lead has been as high as 48 with no obvious physical symptoms. My coworkers were in the 70s and 80s with no symptoms either, at least until they received their numbers and suddenly had all kinds of ailments. We worked at a nasty range with poor ventilation. They took it more seriously than I did and after speaking with doctors that didn't know what to do, or said they was nothing they could do except stay away from lead and it'll in time get out of you system, they decided the worry was / is blown way out of proportion.

After a while my levels got to normal (below 10).
 
The elimination of lead in gasoline probably did more to eliminate lead poisoning than anything else. Think of the crops grown within 50 feet of major thoroughfares all those years. Years ago I observed families gathering dandelion greens for consumpsion on highway cloverleafs. The ground and plants were probably saturated with lead. Is inhalation versus ingestion more dangerous?
 
Originally Posted by ChattanoogaPhil View Post
>>If I'm ok, what do you have to do.... snort powdered lead through a rolled up $20 bill to get too much lead in your blood?<<

Use teeth to pull the bullet from the case?

Bite on a bullet while the dentist/barber digs the other one out of your shoulder?
 
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I've wondered about this too that's why I always wash up after a day at the range. I would imagine casting lead bullets and slugs wouldn't be good for your health.
 
When I worked at the PD and was a firearms instructor who was also responsible for range maintenance my lead level was 30. Several years later I was working at a foundry that recycled lead and copper. My lead level never got any higher than 35 but there were guys that would reach 100 by not following simple safety rules. If your level reached 100 they pulled you out of the smelter section. We had several guys develope brain cancer but I don't know if this was related to long term lead exposure or not.
 
The elimination of lead in gasoline probably did more to eliminate lead poisoning than anything else. Think of the crops grown within 50 feet of major thoroughfares all those years. Years ago I observed families gathering dandelion greens for consumpsion on highway cloverleafs. The ground and plants were probably saturated with lead. Is inhalation versus ingestion more dangerous?

Remember the dark strip down the center of the macadam? Can only imagine what must have leached off of the roads when it rained.
 
It's the lead you can't see that's the threat,either as a vapor or in a solution that can be absorbed through the skin.

That's what the DIP does (hydrogen peroxide and vinegar). I use it to clean my rimfire suppresses. Fill mason jar 50/50 and drop the baffles in it for few hours. Man it works good! It makes lead acetate that's supposed to be bad for ya.
 
lead paint dust is a serious hazard for infants, small children, babies & in the womb. They need to be protected from it..... period. On older folks like us, you'd have to have a serious occupational exposure for some time, before it became a problem. We had 2 iron workers in their mid 60's doing pre-rip out work at a major car manufacturing plant...... they either cut out structural gussets, or members, or welded on to existing structural pieces.

They had gotten to old to tie re-bar, and no longer connected on the red iron. but were both certified welders.......... they'd sit crouched over their work & the lead paint fumes were directed up under their welding hoods to their mouths & noses for 8-10 hours a day ... for weeks & weeks. One night one of them collapsed on the ground/(concrete floor) , by the time the company medics& ambulance got there the 2nd guy was woozie too. Thankfully the company paramedics loaded both up in ambulances and another Local 10 Ironworker KC, Mo. accompanied each ironworker to North Kansas City Hospital's ER.

Where they got very lucky was one of the ER doc's had just completed a refresher for his yearly retraining and he had chosen Occupational Medicine. He asked what the 2 men did for a living & then went out to talk to the ironworkers out front. they told him of the hard cutting & burning on structural iron...... the two men got even luckier that NKC Hospitsal had someone in the lab that night that knew how to process Blood lead level tests.. one man had fatal levels & the other was near fatal levels............He immediately started chelation treatment for both men....... and made sure that BLL's (blood Lead Levels) were taken on anyone cutting on, or welding on any structural member/piece....

After that, the car manufacturing plant had us go in & remove the lead paint from each piece that needed to be welded on, or cut on............ We'd go in on Friday evenings aftr they shut off the lines, and their crew had left.... we'd then set up an area and we had 2 of their foremen & 2 of ours to go mark each piece....they each had plans to show what had to be done.......... We'd work nearly straight thru until early Sunday eve, but by 6:00pm I want to say, every piece of our equipment had to be gone from the plant & we had to have all trucks away from the loading docks.

My certification is long since lapsed but I was a Class II Missouri & Kansas Contractor/Supervisor on both Lead & asbestos.. On this I know of where I speak.......

Try to cast your bullets/sinkers etc. outside...... with a good fan blowing on you from the back forward..........I prefer to wear a decent old cotton long sleeved shirt, buttoned at the wrists. I do not wear gloves when I cast, nor do I require my now 15 yr old grandson who helps cast & size to wear gloves either. Both of us wear construction OSHA grade safety glasses.. and I have the bathroom sink in the basement mud room set up with Dawn dish soap cut 1-4 & I have an old green scrub pad handy, and it is mandatory that your hands & face are washed thouroughly before drinking or eating (on him).......... (or to smoke for me, I used to until my cancer returned in 2013).

Do not let small children or pregnant moms around areas where you cast. It helps that Nick takes great pride in his appearance & he washes up without being told.
 
If indoors firearms practice and maintenance were a daily activity, it would be a concern. Most indoor ranges have high capacity ventilation fans to deal with the risk. Regardless, always wear thin protective gloves when cleaning guns that have a lead buildup from use. I was advised to wash clothing worn at firing ranges separately. While I never went that far in my precautions, I would recommend that an annual physical checkup include a blood workup that will screen for lead. Lead tends to deposit in bones, where it can cause cancer. In the 15 years that being a Firearms Instructor was one of my duties, I never received a notification of high lead levels in any of my annual blood workups.
 
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I've cast many, many thousands of lead bullets in the last 60 years. I have always made proper venting and sanitation an essential. I cast under an old kitchen vent that I bought at a flea market. My last lead test was normal.
 
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